More Talk About Life After Death
Someone is always talking about life after death. Every once in a while, somebody listens. It seems to be a big deal to believe this talk. PG wrote a couple of posts on the subject. They are presented here today. Pictures,from The Library of Congress, are soldiers from the War Between the States.
In January of 2005, PG was at a memorial service. A lady who grew up near PG had passed away. The service, in a Methodist Church, was full of talk about life after death. This talk did not give PG comfort, and served to remind him of why he does not go to church. Some, of the family of the deceased, did find comfort in the talk about life after death.
PG was trolling the blogosphere, looking for good words to put between pictures. He was tired of a number of subjects. None of these subjects were going to go away, although others can be expected to tire of reading about them. Then he found a post in Making Chutney about the ultimate subject that will not go away…life after death.
Life after death is a better phrase than “eternal life” or, G-d forbid, “Salvation”. Jesus Worshipers are obsessed with life after death. It is mentioned at almost all gatherings of Jesus Worshipers. PG finds the whole matter annoying.
So anyway, the New York Times published an op ed piece, written by Charles Blow. It seems as though the “Pew Forum”…which may or may not comment on deodorants…published a survey. The bottom line of the study is that 70 percent of Americans said that they believed religions other than theirs could lead to eternal life. Gee, that’s big of them.
Who says that life after death is a proper matter for a religion to discuss? And even if it is, why do Jesus Worshipers talk about life after death ALL THE TIME? Also, does a belief in life after death justify the rudeness and shouting that Jesus Worship is known for?
Jesus Worship is the dominant religion in our culture. Many people see other religions through the priorities of Jesus Worship. It is a surprise to many to learn that not everyone is as concerned about life after death as they are. Many Jesus worshipers cannot comprehend that many people simply do not agree with the Jesus Worship plan for life after death.
The correct answer to the question “Where will you spend eternity?” is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. The use of cusswords is optional.
This post has been in the works for a long time. It is about life after death. This is a big deal to Jesus worshipers. It is fair to say that the entire religion has devolved into a scheme for life after death. Either you agree, and go to heaven, or disagree, and go to hell. PG has thought long and hard about this, and has a few thoughts.
One problem with this concept is human nature. When you have a religion based on broadcasting a message, some of the believers go overboard. Some will let their pride get in the way. They enjoy the power that seems to come with spreading this message. When a person hears this “good news,” shouted by people who are bad news, then it is natural to doubt the message.
A facebook friend supplied this quote “More people have been brought into the church by the kindness of real Christian love than by all the theological arguments in the world, and more people have been driven from the church by the hardness and ugliness of so-called Christianity than by all the doubts in the world. ” The $64 question becomes: Do people who have been repelled from Jesus, through exposure to his obnoxious believers, go to hell?
There is also the matter of people who simply do not agree with the scheme for life after death. Of all the standards to use, why would G-d use the doctrine of one branch, of one religion? Does G-d even exist? Are the billions of people who never even heard of Jesus destined for hell?
PG was raised in the Southern Baptist tradition. For various reasons, he resisted the pressure put on children to “make a profession of faith”, and be baptised. When he was 17, he quit going to church. In 1979, there was a week in a Moonie camp in California. There have been many books read, a bit of thinking and talking, and a few odd meetings attended. There were 7 years working closely with an abusive professional Jesus worshiper. After a while, PG got tired of worrying about it all, and just wanted to enjoy the time he has on this planet.
Which brings us to today’s post. In no particular order, here is the product.
1- G-d does not write books. The Bible was compiled by the Council of Nicea from a variety of texts. These texts were written in a multitude of languages, and copied by hand. It is possible that the scribes copying them made mistakes. It is possible that errors in translation were made. It is probable that texts were not included in the Bible, for various reasons. The Bible is the product of man’s labor, with possible inspiration by G-d.
The first commandment says Thou shalt have no other gods before me. When you call the Bible the word of G-d, you are, in effect, making a G-d out of a book. When you violate this common sense commandment, you are going to have problems.
2- The first commandment… Thou shalt have no other gods before me. .. does not make an exception for the so called son of G-d.
3- Jesus was killed because he was a trouble maker. His death, and reputed resurrection, have nothing to do with what happens when you die.
4- What happens to people after they die is none of your business. Living people should be concerned with life, and not worry about what will happen when you die.
5- You should have faith in G-d to take care of you when you die. Period. Don’t scream about Jesus. Don’t kill the infidel. Don’t worry about your soul. G-d took care of you before you were born, and she will take care of you after you die.
6- What you say does not become more true the louder you say it. The way you say something is more important than the words you say. It is more important to show kindness to your neighbor, than to scream the so called truth.
7- The decision to end a life is G-d’s job. You are better off when you let her make this call. This applies to war, abortion, captal punishment, and euthanasia, and other forms of humans ending life.
8- G-d should be enjoyed. G-d should bring nourishment to life. G-d should NOT be fought or argued over. The third commandment…Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. … is another common sense rule that is shamelessly violated by those who claim to be “saved”. When you forget this rule, you cause trouble.
9- When copying some commandments for use in this post, PG found this. 23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold. PG has heard about the ten commandments all his life, and yet has never heard this line. It is just 6 verses after the tenth commandment, which is about coveting. The tenth commandment is obsolete in this era of wealthy churches, and so-called prosperity gospel.
Dump
You have probably heard Donald Trump quoted as saying the White House is a dump. The quote was in a Sports Illustrated article, First Golfer: Donald Trump’s relationship with golf has never been more complicated. This comment is one of many unflattering comments about DJT in the article. Once the dump comment got publicity, it was *officially* denied. @realDonaldTrump I love the White House, one of the most beautiful buildings (homes) I have ever seen. But Fake News said I called it a dump – TOTALLY UNTRUE
Facebook jumped into the matter with a tasteful meme. The top part is the TrumpDump comment. The bottom part is a picture of BHO, with a quote: “In the evening, when Michelle and the girls have gone to bed, I sometimes walk down the hall to a room Abraham Lincoln used as his office. It contains an original copy of the Gettysburg Address, written in Lincoln’s own hand. …”
Most BHO quotes are legitimate. He is still a celebrity, and a record of his every word exists. It is not like historic quote magnets like Marilyn Monroe and Mark Twain. When you see a beautifully illustrated quote, with a famous dead person at the bottom, the odds are very good that the famous dead person did not say it.
This does not stop a skeptic like PG. Once you get started investigating, there is no telling what you are going to find. The BHO quote is documented by Huffington Post, Obama Pens Letter Commemorating Gettysburg Address On 150th Anniversary Of Remarks. The Lincoln bedroom at the White House does have one of the Copies of the Gettysburg Address.
The comments by BHO were originally posted at WhiteHouse.gov. When you follow the HuffPo link, you see this: “Thank you for your interest in this subject. Stay tuned as we continue to update whitehouse.gov.” The letter from BHO is no longer on WhiteHouse.gov. A cached copy is available.
Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.
Conversations with People Who Hate Me
Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a new podcast. The host is Dylan Marron. He is good at getting publicity on facebook and twitter. The concept for the show is for Mr. Marron to call people who send him nasty messages. They talk on the phone, and have the magical experience of seeing each other as human beings. That is the plan, anyway.
PG has heard of Dylan Marron. There was a video featured on facebook. A video series of his was promoted on facebook, until PG chose to unfollow it. There was an attitude of smug superiority in many of these performances. PG finds this attitude to be very common with SJW™ types. This elitism is one reason why SJW™ are so disliked, not to mention ineffective.
There was one more video. Mr. Marron made some comments about autism. Apparently, Mr. Marron did not know what he was talking about. “PG decided to tweet a message to @dylanmarron. PG had never clicked on the DM twitter account, much less left a message. “You are blocked from following @dylanmarron and viewing @dylanmarron’s Tweets.”
A person who blocked PG on twitter, without recieving a single tweet, is hosting a show where he talks to “people who hate me.” PG has more curiosity than common sense, and decided to listen. The first guest was *Chris.* He is a cat scan technician, so the man has a few smarts. Chris described himself as a conservative, who used to be a liberal.
One issue that is important to Chris is abortion. He says he used to be pro choice, until he decided that life begins at conception. His *liberal* wife has born him two children, so it is not an abstract topic. People should play the game if they want to make the rules.
PG has noted that the conservative attitude about abortion is similar to the liberal attitude about racism. Both are explosive subjects. Believers seem to think that the louder you speak, the more truth your words have. Both anti-racists, and pro-life peeps, enjoy using questionable logic. Both sides passionately believe what they do, and think they are morally superior to people who do not feel the same. Many anti racists, and anti abortionists, seem to take pride in being a pain in the ass.
Somehow, the expression SJW™ comes up. Dylan thinks it is a compliment, while Chris sees SJW™ as an insult. Eventually, they agree to disagree. Kum Bah Yah.
Maybe SJW™ needs a makeover. The Social Justice part is arguable, but will stand for now. The W part is the problem, just like the W presidency. To most people, the W in SJW™ stands for warrior. Most SJW™ are not up for mortal combat, even if they hear that a celebrity said the N-word. Maybe the W should stand for whiner, wanker, wannabe, or wuss. PG votes for wanker.
PG wanted to comment about the show, and found an email address.
I just listened to the first episode of “People who hate me.” It had a few good moments, and a few bad ones. I don’t remember everything verbatim, so I cannot comment on individual statements. You said something about calling people racist. I have been called both n-lover and racist. I feel like both insults are the same. Fighting for social justice through name calling is useless.
I tried to send you a comment after your podcast series on autism. I went to twitter. It was the first time I had been to your twitter page. I was blocked. I don’t know if I will listen to any more episodes. As Andrew Sullivan said, the worst thing you can do to a blogger is ignore him. Andy said this before the advent of singular they, so the pronoun may change.Here is the blog post I wrote about the autism show. I also found another post I made about you. Here is a quote.
PG saw a video recently, A Rant Against an Anti-Millennial Rant. “And we use words like “racist” to describe someone who thinks that the word “bae” isn’t real because it didn’t originate from a white, Eurocentric vernacular.” It turns out the video features Dylan Marron, who says “And we understand that surface gestures are totally cool but they do nothing to dismantle systemic patriarchy.”
Alleged comedian Bill Maher got in trouble this week for saying a forbidden word on TV. A national hissy fit resulted. This communal pearl clutching is an example of a surface gesture. Screaming “MOMMY HE SAID THE N-WORD” does nothing to dismantle systemic patriarchy.
Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.
The Worst Jokes Of Scotland
This repost is borrowed from Twenty Two Words, who borrowed it from someone else. The pictures are from The Library of Congress. Every year, the Edinburgh Fringe Festival has a contest for the best joke. The 2011 winner was Nick Helm, aka “The Human Car Crash of Light Entertainment”.
1. Nick Helm – “The banking program needed a password eight characters long. I picked Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.”
2. Tim Vine – “Crime in multi-storey car parks. That is wrong on so many different levels.”
3. Hannibal Buress – “People say ‘I’m taking it one day at a time.’ You know what? So is everybody. That’s how time works.”
4. Tim Key – “Drive Thru McDonalds was more expensive than I thought … once you’ve hired the car”
5. Matt Kirshen – “I was playing chess with my friend and he said, ‘Let’s make this interesting’. So we stopped playing chess.”
6. Sarah Millican – “My mother told me, you don’t have to put anything in your mouth you don’t want to. Then she made me eat broccoli, which felt like double standards.”
7. Alan Sharp – “I was in a band which we called The Prevention, because we hoped people would say we were better than The Cure.”
8. Mark Watson – “Someone asked me recently – what would I rather give up, food or sex. Neither! I’m not falling for that one again, wife.”
9. Andrew Lawrence – “I admire these phone hackers. I think they have a lot of patience. I can’t even be bothered to check my OWN voicemails.”
10. DeAnne Smith – “My friend died doing what he loved … Heroin.”
PG did a bit of value added research, and found an article in The Telegraph about the joke contest. This article has the NINE WORST JOKES from the 2011 festival.
1. Tim Vine – “Uncle Ben has died. No more Mr Rice Guy.”
2. V. McTavish – “The Lockerbie bomber put Lockerbie on the map, well he nearly took it off it too.”
3. Josh Howie – I’ve got nothing against the Chinese. Don’t get me Wong.
4. Card Ninja – “I went to see this show and the guy said ‘Hey kid do you like magic?’ And I said ‘Yeah!’ So he asked if I wanted to see a trick and I said ‘Yeah!’ So he said ‘think of a number, times it by 2 and if it’s odd …’ Oh no, he’s a MATHmagician! “
5. Tom Webb – “Due to the economy, profiteroles will now be called deficiteroles.”
6. Nathan Caton – “Postcode wars? That sounds like a really shit BBC game show.”
7. Andrew Bird – “My wife’s eating for two. She’s not pregnant, just schizophrenic.”
8. Mark Olver – “I was like a dyslexic having my back teeth removed … losing my morals.”
9. Andrew O’Neill – “Singing a song for the colour blind today: “And I think to myself … why did I become a bomb disposal expert?”
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The B-52s
There used to be a chinese restaurant, on the Atlanta Highway, called Hunan House. One night, a few people shared a flaming volcano, and formed a band. The b52s played their first show at a valentines day party in 1977. They were named for a bouffant hairstyle.
The b52’s were Ricky Wilson, his sister Cindy, Kate Pierson, Fred Schneider III, and Keith Strickland. The Wilsons and Mr. Strickland were from Athens. Miss Pierson and Mr. Schneider were from New Jersey. Planet Claire was the ancestral home.
Fred had lived in Atlanta before he moved to Athens. He stayed in an apartment on Monroe Drive, across from S&M clutch and brake company. PG knew some of his neighbors, and once rested his feet on a rug, formerly owned by Fred Schneider.
Somebody had connections, and The b52’s were playing shows in New York before long. They released a 45 on db records, “Rock Lobster” and “52 girls”. The first of the girls mentioned…there are only 23 named…is Effie. There was a famous whorehouse in Athens named Effies.
One night, they played a show at the Big Dipper, on Ponce de Leon Avenue. The Big Dipper was a former Maryland Fried Chicken, and is now something else. After the show, either Kate or Cindy was in the parking lot, talking to a local character named Beulah. As was his way, Beulah was talking about Mick Jagger this, Mick Jagger that. Finally, Kate had enough. “Fuck Mick Jagger. One day Mick Jagger will come see me, me, me.”
The b52’s were a fun band. Ricky had an unusual style on guitar, and Kate played a farfisa organ. The girls always wore big hair wigs. Fred was somewhere up front singing.
On Labor Day, 1978, PG saw the b52’s in Piedmont Park. There was a third girl that day, Wendy, who wore an inflatable beach float, and danced. The only songs PG is sure they did were “Downtown” and “Rock Lobster”. A few months later, PG saw the b52’s at the Agora ballroom. The Brains opened.
Sometime in late 1979, the eponymous first album came out. It became a hit, with dance clubs all over playing “Planet Claire”, “Dance this mess around”, and “6060-842”. In the summer of 1980, PG talked with a former Athenian in a hostel in Cannon Beach, Oregon. He mentioned that Cindy was the only heterosexual in the band.
The years went by, and more albums were released. On October 12, 1985, Ricky Wilson died of AIDS. He is buried in Oconee Hill Cemetery, behind Sanford Stadium in Athens. He sold bus tickets at the Greyhound station in downtown Athens before he hit the bigtime.
The band continues to this day. At some point, “Love Shack” was released, and became a hit. It is probably the best known b52’s song today. This is a repost. Pictures are from The Library of Congress.
Incident At The Vortex
The Vortex is a bar in Little Five Points. They are famous for commodified counterculture, and the no idiot policy. The entrance is a Moreland Avenue icon.
There was an incident recently. A young lady ate there, and was not happy with the service Instead of leaving a tip, she wrote a note on the reciept. The server’s bf got her name, and left obnoxious messages on facebook. The server was fired, and the bf was banned from The Vortex.
The first PG heard about the incident was an article, Why You Shouldn’t Dine At The Vortex at Little Five Points in Atlanta, Citing Discrimination and Violation of Privacy, posted on facebook. The article was published by Black Lives Matter Greater Atlanta. (Auto start music alert.) The customer, Kristina White, has disowned the BLMGA article. The link above is provided for reference only.
“This article was NOT authorized by me AND I am not affiliated with Black Lives Matter of Greater Atlanta!! Since sharing this story and hearing from another patron that also had a terrible experience with the same waiter, I have determined The Vortex incident to be more of a customer service issue rather than a race issue. The Black Lives Matter of Greater Atlanta organization is no longer associated with the investigation of this case, neither do they have the right to speak on my behalf to media outlets in which they are well aware of. However, Sir Maejor of BLM, continues to circulate MY story (inaccurately may I add) to push his own Agenda!! This has to stop‼️ I’ve been blocked from commenting on the BLM page to address this, but I ask…Please DO NOT share anything from their page regarding this incident!.” UPDATE: The facebook disclaimer has been taken down.
Obviously, leaving harassing messages is not acceptable. However, looking at various accounts of the incident, the only concrete complaint is that some customers got better cups of water than Ms. White. This is from her initial post: “I asked for cold water on this extremely hot day only to get back a smaller cup with no ice unlike the “other” patrons sitting on the outside deck with us. Of course, I sent it back and requested the same cup size with ice as the “other” patrons. He reluctantly exchanged the cups.” The BLMGA account is more sensational.
Customers sometimes have bad service. Servers sometimes have unreasonable customers. This is the food service industry, and it is always going to be like that. Maybe the server was rude to Ms. White. Maybe Ms. White was rude to the server, and he did not react well. However, if the worst thing the server did was give someone else a better glass of water, then maybe Ms. White was being petty. Stiffing a server, because someone else got a bigger glass of water, is not a good look.
Black Lives Matter Greater Atlanta seems to be part of the problem here. The *President and CEO* is Sir Maejor Page aka Tyree Conyers-Page. BLMGA is emphatically not connected to Black Lives Matter, as this radio story indicates: Black Lives Matter Disavows Atlanta ‘President’ Sir Maejor.
THE BLMGA DIFFERENCE “There are over 500 Black Lives Matter Groups out there and six in that State of Georgia. What separates us from the other BLM Groups out there is that we believe in leadership and accountability. We chose not to affiliate ourselves with the national BLM group because we will not center “sexuality and gender” around our organization. We believe it is divisive and counter productive to the movement. We will not put the “LGBTQ AGENDA” before the “BLACK AGENDA” we believe all black lives matter and at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what your sexual orientation or sexual preference is, you are still black.”
The BLMGA version of the incident had a homophobic feel to it. “Gaven’s boyfriend Patrick Wilkinson was sitting on the same patio as Ms. White and observed the whole entire ordeal. While in between servicing paying customers, Gaven and his boyfriend thought it would be appropriate and professional to overly show PDA (Public Display of Affection), this included kissing and fondling each other. Without being concerned that they were completely turning other paying guests off.” Did this really happen? What does that have to do with not getting as big a water cup as other customers? Did this really need to be included in the story? Maybe BLMGA was trying to fire up the readers, by screaming about faggots kissing in public.
Maybe it is related to the story, and we just don’t know all the details. The first three messages were: Msg 1: You shouldn’t go out to a fucking restaurant if you can’t afford to fucking tip. • Msg 2: recognize me? • Msg 2: you’re a piece of shit. The time stamp here is 7:24 pm for Msg 1, and 7:45 pm for Msg 2 and Msg 3. (The time on the receipt is 7:12 pm. This receipt was posted on the initial facebook post by Ms. White.) Just what did Mr. Wilkinson (the bf) mean by “recognize me?”
And the story goes on. The Vortex will endure, serving hamburgers and booze. PG ate there once, and decided that *The Vortex is Bennigans, with a nose ring.* The no idiot policy will be selectively enforced. BLMGA will find more stories to glomm onto. Kristina White, the server, and the servers bf, will go on to new adventures. The spell check suggestions for Maejor are Major and Marjorie. Pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.
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