Machete Hike
This content was originally published July 4, 2009. … They called it BYOM … bring your own machete. The plan was to meet at the bridge over the tracks on Piedmont Road, just north of the park. Next, go down to the proposed beltway path and clear out enough weeds to make a hike the next week feasible. I got to Ansley Mall a bit before 10, and found what looked like a shaded parking spot. The sidewalks were full of people leaving the end of the Peachtree Road Race. I hung out by the bridge, and waited for hikers. Finally, a few minutes before giving up, Angel showed up. …
… I asked Angel if what we were doing was legal. Angel said he thought so, and the police were probably busy with the Road Race. Within a few minutes the other four choppers had arrived. I said that someone needs to be first, and started down the hill to the tracks. I had brought some loppers, and very quickly found them to be useless. I had a small pair of hand clippers that I used. Clearing weeds from those tracks with hand clippers was like draining a swimming pool with a coffee mug. This process very quickly resembled work. …
Even though it was mild (by Atlanta July standards), I was soon light headed and covered in sweat. After a while, one person got out a small saw, and gave me his machete. Swinging a machete was also a workout, and I despaired of making much of a dent in the greenery. It was the plant kingdom against the animal kingdom, and the plants were winning. The good news was, with six people hacking at the underbrush, a surprising amount of progress was made. Before long, the troops reached the Montgomery Ferry Bridge, which was the turnaround.
This content was originally published July 31, 2010. … Phlash goes to the Prospect Party by Phlash Goober. Phlash was facing another evening reading about rich people, who have affairs and commit murder. Since the Prospect Party was nearby, Phlash decided to go. When he found the place, the first thing he noticed was the food. There were lots of soft drinks, and hollowed out watermelons filled with chunks of fruit. The obligatory spinach dip was there, as were pigs in blankets, and chips and dip. Phlash had already eaten dinner, but that seldom stops him. Phlash was getting a touch bored, until he started talking to a prospect. …
… “H” and Phlash have a mutual friend, and this gave them an excuse to chatter. “H” had just gotten back from Clemson, South Carolina, where there are orange tiger paws painted in the roadway. Did her car got scratched? Phlash went outside, and decided the music was too loud for conversation. He went back inside and saw his friend “Lawrence”. They discussed pictures of horses and non-synchronistic coincidence. Phlash stepped outside again. The music made his glasses rattle in their frames. He went back inside and saw the former Miss Tall International®, “Queen of Siam”. …
… Phlash saw his onetime camping friend “Pro-A”, who liked to talk. Phlash was getting reckless by this time, and a talking person, no matter how enthusiastic, is preferable to “Play that funky music white boy” at migraine level. “Have you read any good books lately, Pro-A?” As fate would have it, “Pro-A” had just finished a tome about Catherine the Great, a Russian Czarina, that Phlash was blissfully ignorant about. Still, he was a good sport, and listened for a few minutes, until someone interrupted this foodside chat with news about the new sneaker for Lesbians, the Dyke-EE. …
… At this point, Phlash came upon a conversation about Indian Food, vegetarianism, flatulence, and Bean-o. Phlash agrees with the concept of Bean-o, but wonders what people will do for after dinner amusement. Meanwhile, the music outside was turned down a notch, after houseplants complained about the noise. All this time, the hot tub had been bubbling away, inviting all the tallfolk into the waters. Phlash followed, just in time for a stimulating conversation about ugly bridesmaid dresses. At this point, Phlash got dressed, grabbed one last handful of pretzels, and went home. … After publication, the party hostess was offended by this article. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken January 1, 1949. Alberts Cancellation Shoes, 240 Peachtree Street, Atlanta. Today, 240 Peachtree is the Atlanta Merchandise Mart. · selah ©Luther Mckinnon 2025
Stupid Question™
This content was originally published July 11, 2009. … The morning started in Saturday MARTA fashion. There was an OTP family going downtown, and they were staying together. At Brookhaven, a lady told the driver that a man had tried to assault her. The train was stopped until a police officer came to investigate. After a long wait at five points, I got on the west train. I had never been to the Bankhead Station before, and was not sure how the system worked down there. I left the train at the Ashby station, and saw Will and Eli. I had met them the week earlier on the machete hike. …
… A train soon came along, with the message board saying Vine City. A lady from MARTA then came by to tell people that this was the train going to the Bankhead station. At Bankhead, a crowd of 30 or so people was milling around. By their backpacks and water bottles, it was easy to guess that this was the urban hiking group. A few more people were en route, so the start of the hike was delayed by a few minutes. By this time I had stashed my phone in his pack, and was blissfully unaware of time. …
… The plan was to walk along the beltway corridor, from Bankhead station to Piedmont Hospital. The hardy hikers could go on to Piedmont Park. As it turned out, only about half of the hike was on the beltline route. The part from Bankhead station to the Howell Mill gulch was needed for access to the beltline path. The hike began through a wooded area behind the Bankhead Station. This area had a few homeless shelters, whose residents were not around. The first rail portion was behind the Fulton County Jail and Dog Pound. It was a pleasant stroll, with kudzu on both sides. There is an abandoned quarry in this area, which is going to become a city park. …
… The rail tracks the hike was on are active tracks. While approaching a tunnel, a train was heard in the distance. A decision was made to get off the tracks while the train passed. The ground beside the tracks was muddy, with the algae of run off sewerage apparent. Eli took a leadership role in jumping off the tracks. His right boot sank a foot deep in sewage enhanced mud. PG saw this, and decided to be careful where he stepped. The train passed by, and the group proceeded through the two tunnels. The second tunnel was an old concrete tunnel that was about 100 yards long. …
… I said to myself, this is so #@%&* cool. Before long, the group made a ninety degree turn, and was on another line. Soon, another train came down the tracks, this one pulling only another engine. A white truck pulled up on a gravel road, and had a chat with the hikers at the end of the procession. According to Eli, the man was very nice. He said he got nervous when his crew tells him there are thirty people hiking on the railroad tracks. People, please be careful. Soon, the engine carrying train came back in the opposite direction as before. …
… The rest of the hike went smoothly. Soon, they reached Piedmont Hospital. No one needed to go to the ER. I decided to retire at this point, and walked up the hill to Peachtree Road. After another hefty wait, a bus appeared. Some of the hikers were not used to the Breeze Card system, and there was some confusion while everyone got paid up. The cash customers had to pay again to use the trains. I wondered if I saved much time by not hiking to Piedmont Park.
This content was originally published <a href=”” target=”_blank”>July 8, 2009. … The other day, I was researching the 10:09:36 quandary, and he found a place on the web called Stupid Question™ .It should be noted that Stupid Question™ is a registered trademark. The bottom of the home page is littered with disclaimers. The Boortzesque nadir is: “Stupid Question™ contents are for informational purposes only. Readers are encouraged to think for themselves and act at their own risk”. Stupid Question™ is now defunct. The property of John Ruch, SQ wallowed in useless and pointless knowledge from June 25, 1998 until May 23,2005. …
… The last recorded question was Q: Did the military ever really try to build a “death ray,” or is it just science fiction?—Michelle, from the Internet. The answer was that the Masters of War tried, but failed. A death ray was too expensive, and simply not feasible for a host of reasons. The first question is from the ever popular anonymous. Q: Is it true that Keith Richards had a blood transfusion to clean the drugs out of his body? If so, how does that work? It seems like the picker, and fashion model, went to a clinic in Switzerland once. …
… He was connected to a dialysis machine, and his blood was filtered for a few days. It didn’t work, and he was soon smack at it. It is like Mark Twain said about quitting cigars, he has done it dozens of times. … The stupid questions appeared once a week for seven years. On April 19, 2001, Tom Bryant asked : “Q: What’s the difference between ketchup and catsup?” The answer is that they are both English versions of the same asian word. They both refer to tomato puree. …
… This is like the way a historic Russian ruler is spelled czar and tsar. They all mean the same thing. You might even say ta-may-toe or ta-mah-toe. This does not address an issue that has caused me to stay awake at night. Whenever you get a little condiment package of ketchup, it always says “fancy ketchup”. Is there plain ketchup? And why does a place like McDonalds only serve “fancy ketchup”? … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken June 10, 1966. “Beauty Contestants at Dinkler Plaza Hotel.” The video Foolish Questions was featured at the original post.
Monroe Drive Or Boulevard
It is an Atlanta cliche. Boulevard turns into Monroe Drive because one was black, and the other white. The white people did not want to live on a street with the same name as the black neighborhood. You hear this all the time, with very little explanation. It is plausible. At one time, Ponce de Leon Avenue was a dividing line between the white, and black, neighborhoods. There are, however, a few questions about this name change business. This is a repost.
In the space between I-85 and Dekalb County, there are four streets that change names when they cross Ponce De Leon Avenue. These are Juniper/Courtland, Charles Allen/Parkway, Monroe/Boulevard, and Briarcliff/Moreland. Several streets cross Ponce without changing names, including Spring Street, Peachtree Street, Piedmont Avenue, and North Highland Avenue.
Four thoroughfares are affected by the Ponce rebranding. Juniper/Courtland is mostly commercial, at least south of Ponce. Briarcliff/Moreland is mostly white until you get to the railroad tracks south of Little Five Points. When Moreland Avenue goes under the MARTA line, the neighborhood is Reynoldstown….which was not named for Burt Reynolds.
Charles Allen/Parkway does change from white to black at Ponce. The street name then changes to Jackson Street, the original name, at Highland Avenue. Monroe/Boulevard, one block east of Charles Allen/Parkway, also goes from white to black at Ponce. However, when you cross the railroad tracks, Boulevard goes through Cabbagetown, a white neighborhood. Boulevard residents change color several times before the road dead ends at the Federal Prison. Oakland Cemetery, and Zoo Atlanta, do not play a role in this drama.
If this litany of street names is boring, it is all right to skip over the text. The pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.
Roads change names all over the metro area, for a variety of reasons. In the area between Ponce De Leon Avenue and I 20, there are roads that change at railroad tracks (North Highland/Highland, Krog/Estoria.) Others change at Highland Avenue (Parkway/Jackson, Glen Iris/Randolph) or Decatur Street (Hilliard/Grant, Bell/Hill.) Some of these changes are racially motivated, while others are not. Some make sense, while most do not.
No one seems to know when this Monroe/Boulevard thing happened. An 1892 “Bird’s eye view” shows Boulevard sailing off into the horizon, past a racetrack in today’s Piedmont Park. A 1911 map shows Boulevard starting near “L.P. Grant Park,” and sailing past Ponce up to Piedmont Park. 1940 and 1952 maps show Boulevard going past Park Drive, only to turn into Monroe Drive at Montgomery Ferry Road. Finally, a 1969 map of “Negro Residential Areas” shows Monroe Drive changing into Boulevard at Ponce De Leon Avenue. Boulevard is a stand alone street name at all times.
If anyone knows about this name change business, please leave a comment. It would be interesting to know when these changes were made, and what government agency made them. Google has not been helpful, except for pointing the way to several map collections. UPDATE After the last publication of this post, a comment was made about the namesake of Monroe Drive. A post inspired by this comment is reposted below. UPDATE 99% Invisible produced a story about Collier Heights, a pioneering suburb built for Black people. Included in the documentation was a “residential security map” from 1938. The map color-coded the city’s neighborhoods: A, green,”The Best,” B, blue,”Still Desirable,” C, yellow,”Definitely Declining,” D, red, “Hazardous.” The implication was that the D neighborhoods were where Black people lived. If you look at Boulevard on this map, you see that it is still called Boulevard north of Ponce De Leon Avenue. The neighborhood is C. Boulevard does not become a D neighborhood until Wabash Av., a few blocks south of Ponce De Leon.
“North Boulevard was renamed Monroe Drive in 1937 to honor noted Landscape Architect W.L. Monroe who built his house and a plant nursery on the road and was noted for his many landscape projects and public parks in Atlanta.” Faset (Bill) Seay, February 4, 2020, 3:48 pm This comment was made to Monroe Drive or Boulevard. MDOB looks at Atlanta roads that change names, and the reputed racial motivations for these changes. The Monroe story takes place in Piedmont Heights.
“In 1823 Benjamin Plaster was granted 3,000 acres of land along Peachtree Creek and Clear Creek in recognition of his military service during the War of 1812. This was two years before Archibald Holland acquired a similar tract several miles to the east where another village called Terminus was founded in 1837, later renamed Marthasville and eventually Atlanta. … Plaster built a bridge across Peachtree Creek and the trail to it became known as Plaster’s Bridge Road. The bridge’s stone abutments still remain on the creek banks and a short section of the old road, running along the northern boundary of today’s Piedmont Heights, is now called Plasters Avenue. As other settlers followed a township called Easton grew up around Walker’s Grist Mill on Clear Creek near the site of today’s Ansley Mall at Piedmont Road and Monroe Drive.”
“Around 1850 Captain Hezekiah Cheshire arrived from South Carolina. His sons, Napoleon and Jerome, settled on opposite sides of the south fork of Peachtree Creek. They built a bridge across the creek near to connect their farms and the road to it became Cheshire Bridge Road. … In 1864 General Sherman’s Union soldiers swept through Atlanta. General T. J. Wood’s troops built entrenchments along the eastern edge of Easton on the property of Benjamin Plaster’s son Edwin, putting the little community in the battle of Atlanta. These entrenchments remained until the 1950s when they were destroyed by the construction of a Holiday Inn. Today a few crumbling stone steps and historic marker on the site honor the Edwin Cheshire family’s handyman “Gold Tooth John” whose ghost is rumored to still wander the halls of the old hotel at night.
“In 1871 the Atlanta and Richmond Air Line Railway opened a line between Atlanta and Toccoa, Georgia with a depot at Easton. Its “Air Line Belle” train, said to be the finest on the line, allowed Easton residents to commute to Atlanta without having to ford Clear Creek which still had no bridge. Train service spurred growth of the township to 100 residents by 1888 but the surrounding area remained rural and mostly devoted to farming and dairying. The rail line serving Easton was called the “Southern Railway Belt Line” and in 1883 the “Georgia Pacific Belt Line Railroad” connected with it just north of Easton at Belt Junction, an area which later became known as … Armour/Ottley. … In 1895 North Boulevard was built, running through Easton parallel to the railroad, as a main route into Atlanta. … In 1912 Fulton County annexed Easton and renamed it Piedmont Heights. Plaster’s Bridge Road was paved in 1917 and its name changed to Piedmont Road.” (According to this narrative, the Boulevard-Monroe thoroughfare was originally called North Boulevard. This is not the same road as North Avenue. Confusing road names is not limited to multiple Peachtrees.)
“In 1925 Landscape Architect W. L. Monroe bought 15 acres on North Boulevard at Wimbledon Road where he operated a popular nursery and landscaping business for many years, … Remnants of two small stone structures that Monroe built … remain on the grounds of today’s Ansley-Monroe Villas Condominiums. In 1927 a portion of North Boulevard was renamed Monroe Drive in honor of Monroe’s many landscape projects in the city.” … “In 1928 the City of Atlanta began annexing Piedmont Heights by taking in the lots along North Boulevard. In the 1930s a new home could be bought for $4,700 on North Boulevard or Wimbledon Road.”
There is a bit of confusion here. One source says the Monroe renaming was in 1927, while another source says 1937. Then there is the story told by maps, found in the original post.
An 1892 “Bird’s eye view” shows Boulevard sailing off into the horizon, past a racetrack in today’s Piedmont Park. A 1911 map shows Boulevard starting near “L.P. Grant Park,” and sailing past Ponce up to Piedmont Park. A 1940 map shows Boulevard going past Park Drive, only to turn into Monroe Drive at Montgomery Ferry Road. Finally, a 1969 map of “Negro Residential Areas” shows Monroe Drive changing into Boulevard at Ponce De Leon Avenue, like it is today.
Two things are worth noting. None of these maps have a “North Boulevard.” The street name is a stand-alone Boulevard. Second, the 1940 map shows the street as Boulevard at Eighth Street, and Elmwood Drive. The first mention of Monroe is at Montgomery Ferry, near the Monroe Nursery. This might contradict the racial narrative.
The information about Mr. Monroe neither proves, nor disproves, the story that black Boulevard was changed to white Monroe. City on the Verge: Atlanta and the Fight for America’s Urban Future states “In 1925 landscape architect W. L. Monroe bought fifteen acres on what was then called North Boulevard, establishing a plant nursery that thrived for many years. In 1937, the street north of Ponce de Leon was renamed Monroe Drive in his honor (and to distinguish it as a white area as opposed to Boulevard to the south of Ponce).” The book offers no evidence for this, and its “woke” tone is cause for skepticism. While there is circumstantial evidence to support the legend, verifiable facts are hard to come by. A similar story might be the 1956 change of the state flag.
“William Lott Monroe, Sr. (1891-1965), landscape designer and nurseryman, is recognized in newspaper articles as the “landscape artist” during the development of North Fulton Park (later renamed Chastain Memorial Park) in the late 1930s and early 1940s. This work was financed partially through WPA (Works Progress Administration) funds and supported with local prison labor. … There are three main areas in Chastain Park with Monroe’s signature style as a landscape designer: (1) the master grill area; (2) the picnic grounds area; and (3) the amphitheater. … Monroe’s Landscape & Nursery Co. is removed from Fulton County’s payroll: “… Drawn more than $17,000 from the county in the last year and one-half… The company was drawing $500 a month for supervising landscaping of county parks, which was in addition to flowers, shrubs and blueprints sold by it to the county.” (“Nursery Company Is Cut Off Pay Roll.” Atlanta Constitution, Jan. 25, 1941)” … “1941 Amphitheater still under construction, originally planned as an outdoor venue for the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra.” … “It is unknown if Monroe oversaw the completion of construction at the amphitheater.” … “October 22, 1965 William Lott Monroe, Sr. dies in Atlanta.” Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.
A recent facebook discussion covers that old crowd pleaser, why does Monroe Drive turn into Boulevard? The story is that the street name changed because White people live North of Ponce De Leon Avenue, and Black people live south. Chamblee54 has covered this topic before. The information today will be a bit dry. If you want to skip over the text, you can always enjoy the pictures, from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library.”
“The name changes were intentional and rooted directly in racism.” This judgment from Atlanta magazine is a popular opinion. Unfortunately, there are some street name changes that apparently are not racial. In discussions like this, once racism is blamed, the conversation shuts down. Asking any questions, or exploring the possibility of nuance, is considered racist.
The Atlanta magazine article does not really address Monroe/Boulevard. A 1913 measure, the Ashley Ordinance, is brought up, as well as some of the skirmishing in SW Atlanta over integration. None of those items were in play in the Monroe/Boulevard matter.
The opinion of chamblee54 has not changed. It is entirely possible that Monroe/Boulevard was racially motivated. That sounds like something a Georgia government, of a certain era, would do. However, it does not address the other streets. When were the names changed, and by what government? The answers to the last two questions have been elusive. If anyone reading this has any answers, please leave a comment.
In the space between I-85 and Dekalb County, there are four streets that change names when they cross Ponce De Leon Avenue. These are Juniper/Courtland, Charles Allen/Parkway, Monroe/Boulevard, and Briarcliff/Moreland. Several streets cross Ponce without changing names, including Spring, Peachtree, Piedmont, and North Highland. A wikipedia page, List of former Atlanta street names, has some information about the name changes. More information was found in a collection of maps at the GSU library.
It turns out that Juniper/Courtland change names at North Avenue, one block south of Ponce. As early as 1895, those streets have the same names. On old maps, Juniper ends at North, and Courtand starts a quarter-block west. Wikipedia adds this about Courtland: “North Collins Street (for pioneer James Collins — renamed because of South Collins Street’s reputation as a red light district)”
Briarcliff/Moreland has always been a problem for the racism hypothesis. The race change has traditionally been at the railroad tracks, a half mile south of Ponce. Moreland Avenue was originally County Line Road. It was renamed in honor of a Confederate officer, Major Asbury Fletcher Moreland. “He owned quite a bit of land between County Line Road and Pike Road, which is now Euclid Avenue, some of which is now part of the city’s Bass Recreation Center. Ever the businessman, Moreland built rental homes and a park, which featured a pond and animals — appropriately called Moreland Park — that became a summer getaway for city dwellers.”
Briarcliff was originally known as Williams Mill Road. It changed to Briarcliff after Asa Griggs “Buddy” Candler Jr. built a palace at 1260 Briarcliff Road. The house still stands, barely, and served as the GMHI facility for many years. In 1911 and 1917, Briarcliff is known as Williams Mill, before changing into Moreland. In 1925, and maps issued after 1925, the road is shown as Briarcliff.
Charles Allen/Parkway, one block west of Monroe/Boulevard, was originally known as Jackson Street. The road is still known as Jackson Street, south of Highland Avenue. The earliest map to show Jackson is 1895. By 1930 it has been changed to Parkway, ending at Piedmont Park. Charles Allen Drive does not appear until 1959. Charles Allen was the pastor at Grace United Methodist Church.
Wikipedia has this on Boulevard: “Jefferson Street (marked in 1878 map from North Ave. to Foster St. (now Edgewood Ave.) in today’s Old Fourth Ward) – Rolling Mill Street (north of the railroad) from the late 1860s to about 1880, for the Confederate Rolling Mill, which the retreating Confederate army inadvertently destroyed in 1864.”
Wikipedia has a surprise “Monroe Drive (to honor the Monroe Landscaping Company which did extensive plantings in the area)[17]” The footnote links to a Morningside neighborhood newsletter. There is no mention of Monroe Drive in the cited newsletter.
Before going further with Monroe, we should look at a controversy involving the landscaper William Lott Monroe. “1941 (Jan. 25) Monroe’s Landscape & Nursery Co. is removed from Fulton County’s payroll: “…[D]rawn more than $17,000 from the county in the last year and one-half… The company was drawing $500 a month for supervising landscaping of county parks, which was in addition to flowers, shrubs and blueprints sold by it to the county.” (“Nursery Company Is Cut Off Pay Roll.” Atlanta Constitution, Jan. 25, 1941)” In 1941, Mr. Monroe was working on North Fulton Park, later known as Chastain Park. This park was annexed into the City of Atlanta on January 1, 1952.
The first time Boulevard is mentioned on maps is 1895. The first mention of Monroe Drive is 1951, when Monroe starts at Montgomery Ferry. (Before the Northeast Expressway was built, the road ended at Plasters Avenue, north of the present I 85.) It is not until 1959 that Monroe appears immediately north of Ponce De Leon.
These maps were used in researching this feature. 1878 1895 1911 1917 1921 1925 1930 1930 1931 1934 1935 1939 1946 1951 1952 1952 1954 1959 1967 ©Luther Mckinnon 2025
Marathon
This content was originally published July 21, 2008. … In 1996 Atlanta hosted the Olympics. On the last day of the games, the Men’s Marathon was run. The Marathon course went out Peachtree from downtown, and turned around near the end of the 23 Oglethorpe busline, in front of the funeral home. It then turned right, and went down Lanier Drive beside Oglethorpe University. It went down the street a couple of blocks, turned around in front of Oglethorpe Presbyterian Church, and came back to Peachtree. The runners turned right, and ran to the Olympic Stadium. Being the slack person that I am, I had not gotten tickets to any Olympic events. …
… The Marathon was a free event, and was walking distance from my residence. This was my last chance. When I got there, I was amazed at the instant community that had assembled along the course. This remarkable event was almost over, and this was all I was going to see of it! The fact that it is more than many others saw was little comfort. I walked alongside the course, and crossed Lanier Drive. This is important to the rest of the story. The runners were a bit of an anticlimax. A pack of men in track uniforms ran past. …
… They went to the end of the course, down Lanier Drive, and hustled down Peachtree to the end of the race. After the second appearance of the bulk of the runners, I was ready to go. However, there was a glitch. One runner was way behind the rest of the pack, and I could not cross Lanier Drive until he had gone by, and the course was opened for pedestrian traffic. The last runner was from Afghanistan. After a few minutes, he appeared. He had a large bandage on one leg, which apparently had been injured. He finished the race.
This content was originally published July 15, 2008. … I was enjoying monday morning, until I went up pill hill and saw the red tee shirts. The people in the shirts were anti abortion protesters. The slick signs had the “standard” slogans and pictures of mutilated fetuses. This did not make me feel good about the rest of the day. It seems as though Operation Save America … formerly known as Operation Rescue … is having a National Event in Atlanta this week. “Will you heed the call and allow God to move through you this summer as the Church once again stands for Truth at the very gates of hell?” …
… Meetings and conventions are a big part of the local economy. They bring a lot of money into town. OTOH, we are the captive audience for loud people with a message. Mostly, we just go on about our business, until the vulgar idiots take their credit cards and go home. Many of these folks today wear red tee shirts. They have a cross, and the slogan “Jesus is the Standard”. Another source of amusement for OSA is picketing gay pride events. Could it be that those sign wavers are saying more about themselves than about others? …
… I wrote a post last year called Is Life Sacred? Here is the money quote: “Abortion and War are similar issues. Both are horrible, ghastly events. I have never participated in either, except as a sponsoring taxpayer. In the case of War, there are side effects to a society that wages war, no matter how just. It takes resources away from better uses, is damaging to the economy (except for a handful of profiteers), and is generally bad karma. The same can be said about abortion. However, I stop short of saying we should never do either. Sometimes War is needed. …
… Sometimes Abortion is an appropriate measure. We need to keep the option open. However horrified I may be by abortion, I do not like the power happy politicians and ministers who exploit this issue for their own benefit. The same could be said for those who enlist Jesus in this process. Of course, as many times as Jesus and his believers have hurt me, the sign wavers can have him. There is a counter protest to this nonsense. Next week, another convention will be in town. And unwanted pregnancy will continue. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture: “Rich’s Diamond Jubilee, Jan. 2, 1942. The Diamond Jubilee celebrations began on January 1, 1942, when Margaret Mitchell dedicated five murals commemorating the first years of Rich’s Department Store.” · selah ©Luther Mckinnon 2025
Gaza 2010
This content was originally published June 1, 2010. … There is a lot of talk now about the flotilla to Gaza. Here is more. · A lot of the pro Israel talkers use the terms Hamas and Gaza interchangeably. This is not accurate. The territory and people are Gaza. There is a political party called Hamas, that is currently in control of the territory. Food and construction supplies for the people are not the same as weapons for Hamas. · Hamas won an election in Gaza. When you have elections, your neighbors might not like who won. Your neighbor might impose an embargo …
… control access to your territory, or attack you with depleted uranium and white phosphorus. · This quote catches the eye. “The Israeli (and I am hesitant to say “IDF” here–it lets too many politicians off the hook) media spin machine was ready to go. When you see a detailed multi-page report ready to go within an hour or two of an insanely chaotic military action (of any kind), it is bull shit, plain and clear. Just try reading reports about the Normandy invasion in history books in 2010. Now imagine trying to read the same level of detail, etc. a few hours after the first wave hit the beaches. …
… You get my point. The ‘tragic tale’ was ready to go well before the first commando slid down the rope…” · This is in the comments of another post. “I mean, so far as I understand it, “Hamas” isn’t a country. So Israel is not “at war” with Hamas. In any case, what’s being blockaded is not “Hamas,” but an area of Gaza. Is Israel at war with Gaza? All of it? Part of it? “You are quite correct. For Israel to legally blockade Hamas, it would have to recognize …
… Gaza as a belligerent, which would be a de facto recognition of its independence and entitle Gaza to the rights of belligerents under the Hague Convention of 1899, including, among other things, the responsibility to treat Palestinian prisoners from Gaza as prisoners of war, which Israel does not do.” · Here are the weapons found on the boat where the fighting took place. Is this what armed terrorists use when they take on the mighty IDF? BTW, Lawrenceofcyberia is the blog name of the week. · Is it a coincidence that this happened during the Memorial Day weekend? Many Americans were at the beach, and not watching the news. …
This content was originally published June 1, 2010. … Tipper and Al Gore have separated after 40 years of marriage. Mr. Gore was Vice President under Bill Clinton, and won the popular vote for President in the 2000 election. If the Gore’s had moved into the White House, then Tipper would probably continued the unfortunate tradition of celebrity First Lady. I once saw an appearance by the Gores and Hillary Clinton. It was at a downtown rally during the 1992 election. Tipper Gore said (not an exact quote) that Hillary is just as warm and friendly in person as she is in public.
This content was originally published June 2, 2010. … Writerspot has a selected author of the month. Today, it is Allen Ginsberg. When going to the inevitable website, I learned that Peter Orlovsky died May 30, 2010. Mr. Orlovsky was the longtime lover of Mr. Ginsberg. The poet had a part in many new age dramas, with a few musicals and comedies thrown in for good measure. Hippie, beatnik, gay, artist, peace promoter, Buddhist convert…these are a few of the labels. He became famous for being famous, well known to people who never read a word of his poems. …
… Two of the more famous poems were Howl and Kaddish. Howl became scandalous in 1956 when it was busted for obscenity. It is mild by today’s standards, but almost landed Mr. Ginsberg in prison. I heard about howl in the early nineties, and looked high and low for a copy. I could not find one. Today, not only is the text widely available, there are recordings of Mr. Ginsberg reading his work. The plan was to listen to Howl, while editing photos. About the seventeenth time Mr. Ginsberg shouted Moloch, the plan began to fall apart. The next poem was Kaddish. …
… This is about Naomi Ginsberg, the mother of the poet, who evidently had some issues. This was tough to listen to, so I focused on the pictures. Many of those images were Atlanta in 1956, the year of the Howl obscenity trial. I was two years old. My brother was born in 1956. The Georgia legislature voted in a new flag, for whatever reason. The year before, President Eisenhower had a heart attack. Many wondered if it was a good idea to have Richard Nixon as vice president. Finally, I could stand no more of that voice. I am just not a poetry person. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken in September 1955. “Roswell Road at Wieuca, for Adams-Cates Company”. This is what it looks like today.
Obama Kill Switch
This content was originally published June 17, 2010. … There is a scary headline, “New Bill Gives Obama ‘Kill Switch’ To Shut Down The Internet. When you get to the text of the story, you see a link to the source article. When you click on this link, you see that Prison Planet is facilitated by Alex Jones. Further down in the Aimlow text, he says that the internet is not shut downable, even by the evil Kenyan. It turns out that the bill to allow this internet regulation was sponsored by Joe Lieberman, which brings us to the gist of this story. …
… I have had doubts about the good intentions of Mr. Lieberman for a while. A few months ago, he spoke at a press conference in Israel, where he said, in effect, don’t listen to the President, the congress is never going to do anything Israel does not like. I suspect that Israel needs a bit of “tough love” these days, and Mr. Lieberman is not likely to help. The scary thing is, Joe Lieberman ran for Vice President in 2000, and received a majority of the popular vote. Because of a technicality, Mr. Lieberman was not allowed to serve. …
… While it is generally agreed that the Presidency of George W. Bush was a disaster, the concept of Joe Lieberman as Vice President is possibly worse. VPOTUS is “one heartbeat away” from the big show. In addition to this, the Vice office is a stepping stone to oval office election. If Mr. Lieberman had served as VPOTUS, he would have had four/eight years in the spotlight. It is assumed that he would run for POTUS after Mr. Gore stepped down. The party nomination would be a given. Given the klutzoid nature of the Republican party …
This content was originally published June 16, 2010. … It started with a facebook comment. Someone said she would rather light a candle than curse the darkness. Some incorrigible replied, what if you curse the darkness at both ends? Burning the candle at both ends can cause spectacular light, but it is inefficient. You have to devise a way to hold it, and have something underneath it to catch the river of melted wax that will follow. A candle held perpendicular to earth will have a pool of melted wax below the wick. This wax will vaporize, and burn, and produce light.
… This pool of wax will last a long time, and not spill to the side. This is why a tea candle lasts so long … it is an efficient wax burning device. It has a metal cup at the bottom, which inhibits lighting at both ends. Which brings us to cursing the darkness, a condition caused by the lack of light. Darkness does not have top, bottom, nor sides. The room that is dark might, but the darkness itself is without boundaries. To curse the darkness at both ends would require you to know what those ends are. …
This content was originally published June 15, 2022. … 01- Fair is when a baseball is hit between first and third base. Sometimes it is a tough call. 02- Sunday morning is too sweet to waste on religion. 03- Only argue when it is worthwhile. Don’t argue just to have fun. Better yet, don’t argue. 04- Cry because you are happy. 05- Getting angry with God is like getting angry with standard time. 06- You don’t have to spend all your money at once. Save a bit now and then, and think of a reason later. 07- The sugar and chemicals in commercial chocolate covers up most of the taste. …
… 08- Make pizza with your pasta so it won’t screw up your salad. 09- If you turn your back on God, she will still be looking you in the eyes. 10- Politicians, like diapers, should be changed frequently. 11- Some sayings should be retired. They have been used too much, and no longer mean anything. 12- Does your neighbor’s pain make your pleasure worthwhile? 13- If you have to ask permission, you probably don’t need to. 14- If you charge your happiness, pay the bill at the end of the month. 15- Your reaction to a disaster cannot wait. Act now, using the best judgment you have. …
… 16- The more people talk about forgiveness, the less they practice it. 17- If you don’t want someone to hear what you say, keep your voice down. 18- Time wounds all heels. This is especially true in North Carolina. 19- The middle three letters of the word believe is lie. 20- God is a neutral. She loves and hates in equal measure. 21- Show up, Stay awake, and don’t kill anybody. 22- Youth is wasted on the young. Maturity is wasted on the mature. 23- When you make a list like this, don’t worry about contradicting yourself, or being a hypocrite. …
… 24- Never wrestle with an pig. You will get dirty, and the pig will enjoy it. 25- Be careful when you ask for something, you might get it. 26- The pest is yet to come. He will go away later. 27- Smile, and people will wonder what you are up to. 28- Use spell check, and correct grammar. You will sound smarter than you are. Some of those are worthwhile thoughts. Some are just plain stupid. The commodity wisdom racket is tougher than ever. When this list was published in 2018, there were 45 rules. This production was inspired by a chain e-mail, featuring Regina Brett. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken March 23, 1962. “Krystal Restaurant 3385 Memorial Drive.”
Which Poet Are You?
This content was originally published June 19, 2014. … This is true for people with, or without, privilege. (Almost everyone in America has some sort of privilege.) People are skeptical for a lot of reasons. They have been lied to many times. They are told things to manipulate their emotions. If you want to encourage understanding, then you should listen to what they have to say. Quit talking, and start listening. Quit using labels, and consider that it is a human being you are dealing with. …
… chamblee54 Georgia is going to poison Marcus Wellons tonight. The source of the drugs is a state secret. Noway Please tell me, chamblee, how “poisoning” a murdering animal is a bad thing? chamblee54 1- I don’t like the politically correct expression “lethal injection.” 2- Mr. Wellons is a nasty piece of work, who committed a horrible crime. He probably deserves to die. However, this is not always the case in a state sponsored, premeditated, killing. 3- The whole business of using secret drugs, from a secret source, is appalling. Three Jack Just shoot em, no chemicals needed. …
… chamblee54 Today is the 75th anniversary of the last public execution in France. On June 17, 1939, Eugen Weidmann was dispatched. The guillotine was used. The guillotine may be the most efficient, and least painful, method for executions. Unfortunately, it is rather messy. We have to pretend that we are a civilized society. There are endless appeals, and the humane seeming “lethal injection.” gcp “We like to pretend that we are a civilized society.” We have some members of our society who are quite uncivilized and have shown they can’t exist in this society which is why we have prisons …
This content was originally published June 21, 2014. … There is some talk about what the media tastefully calls drone strikes. Unmanned airplanes are piloted by remote control. The focus on a target, and fire a AGM-114 Hellfire II Missile. Often, a second strike is made, after rescuers come to the scene. When the dead are buried, there is sometimes a strike on the funeral. The Hellfire II Missile costs $40,000. The drones use lots of fuel, and require maintenance. Meanwhile, the moving lips in Washington say that no civilians are killed by these attacks. …
… “More recently, on February 8, the Times reported the BIJ’s findings that the CIA’s drone attacks in Pakistan “have repeatedly targeted rescuers who responded to the scene of a strike, as well as mourners at subsequent funerals.” But after highlighting BIJ’s report, the article then allowed a “senior American counterterrorism official, speaking on the condition of anonymity” to not just question the report’s findings, but to state: “One must wonder why an effort that has so carefully gone after terrorists who plot to kill civilians has been subjected to so much misinformation.” …
This content was originally published June 27, 2014. … I rode my bike to walmart. A bottle of liquid soap was purchased. On the way home, I noticed the bike making a strange noise when braking. When I got home, I saw a liquid puddle under the bike. The top had come off the bottle of soap, and cleaning product was everywhere. After cleaning up, and a car trip to walmart, the internet chipped in. A friend had taken a quiz, Which Poet Are You? The friend got Charles Bukowski. The friend is better looking than Mr. Bukowski. That is setting the bar low. …
… The first question is “Where do you like to write?” The third question is “What muse speaks to you?” There is a picture of a bronze Buddha, wearing a Prussian army helmet. This is a hard hat with a rhino spear rising out of the top. It is most phallic, and totally impractical in the nuclear age. The rest of the questions were stupid. You got: Edgar Allen Poe. “Your dark side is your best side. You excel at noticing the weird, the macabre, and the eerie. While others are frightened by darkness and strange, you feel … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken May 7, 1951. Glenn Iris Supper Club · selah
Is Sarah Silverman Funny?
This material was originally published June 17, 2014. … There was a “promoted” tweet yesterday. @Scribd New on our blog! Laugh So Hard You’ll Pee, The 15 Funniest Lines From Sarah Silverman’s Book. The book, The Bedwetter: Stories of Courage, Redemption, and Pee, was published April 20, 2010. That fact may be the funnier than the 15 lines.
Most of the lines were embedded in pictures, which means a blogger would have to retype them. This is too much work. The few in text form were not very funny. But then, neither is Sarah Silverman, who once gave a TED talk. The big dog at TT said it was “G-d awful,” and did not allow it to be officially released. I saw the video as part of my research for Is Sarah Silverman Funny? The last seven words of the poem: “don’t make me listen to it again.”
The publisher has a survey “to see if this is the book for you.” · “1. Which of the following do you appreciate? (a) Women with somewhat horse-ish facial features. (b) Women who, while not super Jew-y, are more identifiably Jewish than, say, Natalie Portman. (c) Frequent discussion of unwanted body hair. · 2. Are you offended by the following behavior? (a) Instructing one’s grandmother to place baked goods in her rectal cavity. (b) Stripping naked in public—eleven times in a row. (c) Stabbing one’s boss in the head with a writing implement. · 3. The best way to treat an emotionally fragile young girl is: (a) Murder the main course of her Thanksgiving dinner before her very eyes. (b) Tell her that her older sister is prettier than she, and then immediately die. (c) Prevent her suicide by recommending she stay away from open windows. · If you read the above questions without getting nauseous or forming a hate Web site, you are ready to buy this book! Please proceed to the cashier.”
The survey did not indicate whether the book would be at the library, or a yard sale. After four years, it is probably available in discount bins. Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture: “Moreland Avenue and Euclid”
EarthtoDavid
This content was originally published June 18, 2008. … “Oil shale is the fuel of the future, and always will be,” goes a popular saying in Western Colorado. There is a lot of talk these days about oil. Many blame the cost of oil on the reluctance of The United States to drill in certain parts of our territory. This view is especially popular on talk radio. Many suspect radio talkers of being on the oil industry payroll. One of the sources of energy considered today is oil shale. This mineral is found in large quantities in Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. …
… Extraction of petroleum from the shale is a mess. Essentially, you heat the rock until the oil comes out. The process uses a lot of water, and leaves a great deal of nasty cooked rock behind. There are some proposals to sink heating towers into the earth and cook the oil out in the ground. That sounds awfully complicated, expensive, and dangerous to this reporter. The extraction of oil from the earth is a messy matter. When you dig a hole several miles into the ground, lots of mud will come up and need to be disposed of. …
This content was originally published June 14, 2008. … One of the regular stops on this computer is EarthtoDavid. ETD is a country man living in Opelika, Alabama. Recently, he started a “fitness journal”. Now, there are two ways to see this sort of blogging. You can say it is narcissistic and ignore it. Or you can read and enjoy it. Both answers are correct. Part of this journal is the songs on his mp3 player while he walks. … As I commented: “I like to walk and bicycle. However, I do not own an mp3 player. I like to listen to …
… ETD was a big enough man not to be offended by that, and the next day : ” that is what I did. It was really nice to hear the raindrops falling on my umbrella as well as the tree frogs, birds chirping, fish jumping in the water out on the lake, some swimmers out in the water throwing frisbee and enjoying a light rainy evening and seeing the sun settle down behind a thick blanket of rain clouds.” Part of this journal is a picture of ETD, at the top of the post. I began to notice to telltale wire of the mp3 player. …
… I have a bit of history/baggage here. I worked for a long time across the room from an earplug listener. His desk was in front of my work station, so when I was doing my job, I was looking at him. He looked like an idiot with that reverse colostomy bag hooked up to him. There is a lot more to this story…he was an vocally abusive Christian …but seeing hundreds of hours of him listening to his preaching tapes was the icing on the cake.” Life is a matter of personal connections. You connect things to people in your life.
This content was originally published June 11, 2008. … I had assumed that JSM was assured of Georgia’s electoral votes. But looking at these stats from CL, I begin to wonder: Amount Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign has raised in Georgia: $1,305,275, Amount Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has raised in Georgia: $2,458,219, Number of votes Obama received in 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary: 704,247, Number of votes McCain received in 2008 Georgia Republican Presidential Primary: 304,751, Number of votes Sen. John Kerry received in 2004 Georgia Democratic Presidential Primary: 293,265
… There is also the BHO charisma. The dude is a rock star. He has people fired up in a way that JSM can only dream about. … Black voters are a big part of the electorate in Georgia. This block should go overwhelmingly to BHO. Lets assume that a million votes are cast in Georgia. If 30% are black, and they all go for BHO (this is not reality, just pre summer speculation), then that leaves 70% of the population. BHO would only need 200K votes, or 28%, of the non black community. …
… JSM appeared on the Today show this morning. He said we need to be concerned about greenhouse gases, which causes apoplexy in Red America. There was talk about Nuclear Power, which is expensive, and requires intense Government Regulation. There was talk about high gas prices, but no one connects the dots to the weak dollar and deficit spending in Babylon. Oh, and the surge is working. Happy talk in the press is part of the surge strategy. JSM has a more likable personality that BHO. JSM appeared on the Glenn Beck show a few weeks ago, and the first thing he did was call Beck a jerk. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken August 17, 1955. “Phillips 66, Bankhead and Hightower” This is what 2656 Donald Lee Hollowell Pkwy looks like today. · selah
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I believe Mr. Coates went to the West Bank, not Gaza. · I have not read “The Message” in spite of John’s efforts to promote it. · I found this article, and had the vague sense that I had read it before. Then I saw that riff with Gary Indiana, and I knew I had already read it, and did not want to read any more · The social media picture was taken July 12, 1955. “First National Bank and Pabst Blue Ribbon signs” · here is the monday morning reader for today. The quicksand topic last week was the Jordan Peterson nothing debate. When I was telling a friend about it yesterday, his reaction: Who is Jordan Peterson? · The social media picture: “Peachtree Street at night, downtown Atlanta, Georgia, 1937.” This is a repost from 2023. · today is the third of June. Did Billy Joe jump off a wooden bridge, over the Tallahatchie River near Money MS? This is the location of Bryant’s Grocery Store … where Carolyn Bryant was working one afternoon, when Emmett Till came in the store. · This is a repost from 2018. Pictures today are from The Library of Congress Russell Lee took the social media picture in August 1937. “Resident of Ericsburg, Minnesota” · In 2016, I published a poem, Then They Came. … first they came for the rich, i clicked like on facebook, then they came for #racists, i tweeted a #woke #hashtag, then they came for truth tellers, i gave my #thoughts&prayers, then they came for me. A person complained that I made this about “racists”. Which was my point. People get called racist for the flimsiest of reasons, and can suffer severe consequences. · The Elie Wiesel speech, Always take sides, is another example of this. · according to legend, someone asked Martin Niemöller if he included Catholics, in his famous poem “First They Came.” “I never said it. They can take care of themselves.” · The social media picture was taken September 23, 1968. “Buck Owens promotional visit … Capitol Records Distribution Corporation; Riviera Motel” · On March 13, 1988, Halabja was attacked with chemical weapons. Iraq, governed by Saddam Hussein, was almost certainly the culprit. Iraq was in a horrific war with Iran, and was supported by the United States, governed by Ronald Reagan. The United States tried to cover up the attack by blaming Iran. · The Iran-Iraq war had gone on for eight years at this point. Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of people died in that war. Iraq invaded Iran in 1980. At that time, Iran was holding Americans hostage. Many people wanted to bomb bomb bomb Iran. We were happy to see someone else do the dirty work. The United States gave vast amounts of support to Iraq, in its effort to wipe out the Islamic Republic. · There was speculation that the west was encouraging Iran and Iraq to fight as long as they could. The thinking went that when they were fighting each other, they were not fighting Israel. Perhaps if the warring parties had been encouraged to negotiate an end to the conflict, then the chemical weapons attack would not have taken place. · This was after the Iran Contra scandal. This was when the United States was selling arms to Iran, with the help of an Israeli middleman. This was at the same time we were supporting the Iraqi army. We were arming both sides of this horrific war · In 2014, Matt Walsh was a mere blogger, having comment fights with readers · so the r-word is retarded and not racist. I have a good story about the r-word, meaning mentally challenged. This man has a “challenged” brother. All his life, the r-word had been forbidden, and the challenged brother had never heard the word retarded. So, this man brings his boyfriend to meet the family, and the bf slips up and says retarded. Later, the challenged brother asked his mother what that word meant. His mom explains it to him. The challenged brother then said, “oh, I thought it had something to do with being gay · here is a selection of stories from 2008. Included are Neal Boortz, Lester Maddox, Barack H Obama, and Tom Waits. The picture below: “Jack Whinery, homesteader, and his family, Pie Town, New Mexico” · This is a repost from 2009, based on a Listserve article, 15 Fascinating Facts About Toilets. LS continues to produce fresh content in 2025. Pictures today are from The Library of Congress. The social media picture was taken January 7, 1911. “Bris (Briscoe Robotham) Lord, outfielder for the Philadelphia Athletics”. … Selah · These are borrowed from a site called Listserve. LS has lots of lists, and is publishing fresh content in 2025. · 90% of pharmaceuticals taken by people are eliminated through urination. Therefore our sewer systems contain heavy doses of drugs. A recent study by the EPA has found fish containing trace amounts of estrogen, cholesterol-lowering drugs, pain relievers, antibiotics, caffeine and even anti-depressants. Modern urine is expensive · @barrypopik “I’ve created a website selling and delivering #sausages over the #Internet. I’ll send you the #link” · when nothing moves you, if wishing in your hand doesn’t deliver, there is always a bowl of fruit, if the writing prompt does not lead to victory, stymied by writers tackle once again, · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken October 19, 1955. “14th Street and Expressway” · selah
Rebelling Against God
This is a repost from 2014. … Matt Walsh put up a post, We can’t end ‘rape culture’ if we don’t end hook-up culture. (Internet archive does not have a copy.) Now, RC/HUC are dodgy concepts. Just last week, I saw a post about RC, that started “If you are a man, you are part of rape culture.”
OTOH, the “blogger, writer, and professional sayer of truths” has a wide audience. Any trickle down to this slack blog would be appreciated. The BWPST also answers comments, using a psuedonym. He is easily provoked. If you don’t want trolls to start trouble, then you should not answer them. Some people are easily amused.
The fun started when BWPST said “Just like every other problem in the culture, it’s ALL about rebellion against God.” When a Christian talks about God, he usually means something very different from what I think. One of the few things that I believe is God does not write books. I made a comment, and the fun began. Entertainment is not what it used to be.
chamblee54 “Just like every other problem in the culture, it’s ALL about rebellion against God.” The first commandment says to hold no other God before you. This does not mean a book. When you declare a book, compiled by a Catholic committee, to be the word of God, then you are violating this common sense rule. Violating this rule causes problems. Mo, are you Matt? · Mo @ chamblee54 “The first commandment says to hold no other G-d before you. This does not mean a book.”What on EARTH are you talking about? “When you declare a book, compiled by a Catholic committee, to be the word of G-d, then you are violating this common sense rule.” I haven’t declared anything, especially anything regarding Catholicism, as I am not Catholic. Show me where I mentioned anything about Catholicism? Nor did Catholics compile the Word of God. Take your nonsense elsewhere. I have zero time or patience for it. · chamblee54 Mo, are you Matt? · Mo @ chamblee54 “Mo, are you Matt?” How about addressing the POINTS I made to you and the questions I asked? Another troll, capable of nothing but repeating the same nonsense over and over.
chamblee54 Ok, I don’t know where, or if, you said anything about the Roman Catholic Church. My point was about the Bible. The canon of the Christian church was compiled by a group of men. I might be mistaken on this point, but I believe they were Catholics. Whether of not the compilers of the bible were, or were not, Catholic is beside the point I want to make. That point is that the bible is not the word of God. God does not write books. When you confuse a book for God, you violate the first commandment. “How about addressing the POINTS I made to you and the questions I asked?” “Take your nonsense elsewhere. I have zero time or patience for it.” This is a contradiction. · Mo @ chamblee54 “Ok, I don’t know where, or if, you said anything about the Roman Catholic Church.” Okay, then your comment has no point since that’s what’s your crabbing about. Go troll someone else. Do not waste my time.
That is the end of the Matt Walsh/chamblee54 showdown. …We should take a look at the idea of “rebellion against God.” When you assume that a book contains the “word of God,” and use that assumption as a weapon to attack other people, that would seem to be “rebellion against God.” When you believe that a soveriegn deity is interested in your petty quarells, that might be “rebellion against God.” When you spend your time arguing with “trolls,” that might not be “rebellion against God,” but it looks foolish to those who don’t share your beliefs. · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library The social media picture was taken September 25, 1968. Union Camp Corporation United Appeal campaign.
Halabja
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “On March 13, 1988, Iraq used poison gas to kill thousands of people in Halabja (ha lahb jah). A largely Kurdish town near the Iranian border, Halabja was the scene of much resistance to the War that Iraq and Iran were waging. The United States was “tilting” towards Iraq in this conflict. When Iraq invaded Iran (probably with the encouragement of the United States), Iran was holding Americans hostage in Tehran. This was a source of much anger towards Iran, and would be one reason for America to support Iraq.” …
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “The support for Iraq took the form of financial aid, shared intelligence, and a blind eye to Iraqi use of weapons of mass destruction. After the massacre in Halabja, The United States blamed Iran. There is also the question of where Iraq got the poison gas. Saddam was executed before he could go to trial on charges related to Halabja. There is also evidence that Iran was involved. According to Libcom.org, “On 13 March 1988 chemical bombs were dropped on Halabja. No Pasdaran nor Peshmargan were killed.” …
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “The New York Times has an excellent piece on the massacre. A key quote: “Some of those who engineered the tilt today are back in power in the Bush administration. They have yet to account for their judgment that it was Iran, not Iraq, that posed the primary threat to the Gulf; for building up Iraq so that it thought it could invade Kuwait and get away with it; for encouraging Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs by giving the regime a de facto green light on chemical weapons use” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “On March 13, 1988, the city of Halabja in Iraqi Kurdistan was almost completely destroyed by the Iraqi armed forces using chemical weapons, supplied by the West. Around 5,000 people were killed at the time and many more more died from their injuries over the next few weeks. Halabja was not chosen arbitrarily as the site for such a massacre. It had been a major site of proletarian struggle against the Iran-Iraq war There was at least one deserter in every house, and sometimes four or five.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “During 1987 the Iraqi government destroyed 45 villages around Halabja, using explosives to completely demolish all the houses. The inhabitants poured into Halabja, swelling the population to around 110,000. Almost all the young men in these villages had been deserters from the army. They were not just dropping out of the war but were always discussing ways of doing something against it. The influx of people led to a severe housing shortage and there were no jobs for most people. All the time there was talk amongst the unemployed about what to do about the war.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “In 1987, three types of army existed in Halabja, in addition to the Iraqi army: a) Clan Armies … b) The Home Guard – This was by far the largest army. It was not uniformed and had very few weapons. It was the army that deserters joined … c) The Bounty Hunters – This was a small force which acted with extreme viciousness on behalf of the state. Their main function was to force deserters to join the Home Guard. After the massacre most of these scum went to Iran to do the same job for the Iranian state.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “All the talk about stopping the government from destroying Halabja turned to action on 13 May 1987, when militants occupied the mosques and used the loudspeakers to call for the organisation of an uprising. Mosques were used because they were the most suitable buildings in which to hold mass meetings. This was ironic because for weeks before the priests had been giving a special talk after each Friday prayer meeting on… the evils of communist subversion! Almost the whole working clan population of Halabja was awake that night discussing and organising.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … This was at a time when Iraq was launching what proved to be the final battles of the war against Iran. Its wholesale use of poison gas against Iranian troops and Iranian Kurdish towns, and its threat to place chemical warheads on the missiles it was lobbing at Tehran, brought Iran to its knees. Iraq had also just embarked on a counterinsurgency campaign, called the Anfal, against its rebellious Kurds. In this effort, too, the regime’s resort to chemical weapons gave it a decisive edge, enabling the systematic killing of an estimated 100,000 men, women, and children.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … “The deliberate American prevarication on Halabja was the logical outcome of a pronounced six-year tilt toward Iraq, seen as a bulwark against the perceived threat posed by Iran. The United States began the tilt after Iraq, the aggressor in the war, was expelled from Iranian territory by Iran, which then decided to pursue regime change in Baghdad. Sensing correctly that it had carte blanche, Saddam’s regime escalated its resort to gas warfare, graduating to ever more lethal agents. Because of the strong Western animus against Iran, few paid heed. Then came Halabja.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … “The United States launched the “Iran too” gambit. … A State Department document demonstrates that U.S. diplomats received instructions to press this line with U.S. allies, and to decline to discuss the details. It took seven weeks for the UN Security Council to censure the Halabja attack. Even then, its choice of neutral language diffused the effect of its belated move. Iraq proceeded to step up its use of gas until the end of the war and even afterward, during the final stage of the Anfal campaign, to devastating effect.” … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken September 23, 1968. “Buck Owens promotional visit, Riviera Motel”
































































































































































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