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Unpunished

Posted in Poem by chamblee54 on December 11, 2024


losing blaming doubt · waiting hating look too good · eat impostor truth

Belief based culture dominates our society. It is more important to look good than to do good. You fake it till you make it, and the faking is more appreciated. No good deed goes unpunished. You need to believe in yourself, and that belief is based on belief.

water systems pub · industrial arthritis · real MELANIA

It is a truism that you don’t buy beer, but rather that you rent it. The water systems pub cuts out the middle man, and can lead to arthritis on a grand scale. The only truth is found in a Slovenian lady, who married her way into the White House.

election felon · the most dangerous voters · ick Republican

In the Boys in the Band, your ick is the some total of your negative personality traits. In America, that is a political prosecution of a businessman/criminal/politician, who the electoral process landed in office. The danger was the Democratic idiots who thought Kamala Harris was a good idea.

Rogan is hosting · pseudo YouTubers speak up · intellectual

Joe Rogan is not an intellectual. Rather, he is a curious pothead who knows how to shut up and listen. He produces compelling shows, by getting guests that have something to say. Today it is Quinton Tarantino and Roger Avary, who bicker like an old married couple.

queer sensation boast · quick screw access whipped out hog · models butt bracelets

A whipped out hog is the apt metaphor for today’s entertainment. Pigs lead a tough life, especially those growing fat under industrial conditions. The sensation boast is to be living your life ankle deep in pig shit. Modelling butt bracelets is the only alternative.

Jesse Derangement · rapist identity but · it’s awesome transphobes

Jesse and Katie are a part of Monday morning, a time which is properly hated by millions of people. Assuming an identity is one way to deal with the carnage, only to be labelled an awesome transphobe by the same chunderheads who watch MSNBC.

Racist Romance Writer Smackdown

Posted in Library of Congress, Race, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on December 10, 2024


In twitterland, there is a list of trending topics. The other day, the top trend was #IStandWithCourtney. The trend topping #ISWC tweet: Jingle Elle Maruska (they/them) @ellle_em “#IStandWithCourtney Calling out racism is not being racist Pointing out someone’s unethical behavior is not being unethical I stand with Courtney because white feelings are in no way more important than fighting for marginalized people’s right to exist in any & all spaces.” If you think you know where this is headed, you are probably correct. This is a repost from 2019.

Perez Hilton puts it all in a nutshell. “What’s it all about? It’s about racism, injustice, and of course erotic tales of ribald fantasy. Yep, it’s drama in the world of romance novelists! This month the Romance Writers of America suspended author Courtney Milan (presumably asking her to turn in her badge and her quill) over what they called a violation of their code of ethics.”

“So what had Milan, the author of such historical Harlequins as A Kiss For Midwinter … done to deserve this literary excommunication? Apparently fellow novelists Suzan Tisdale (Secrets of the Heart) and Kathryn Lynn Davis (Too Deep For Tears) filed a formal complaint over a twitter thread … in which Milan — a Chinese American author — called out one of Davis’ books for being racist.”

Smart Bitches has more on this bodice-ripping badass, with documentation galore. Davis complaint, Tisdale complaint I, Tisdale complaint II RWA ethics committee report “whether it’s a publishing house deciding that a contract with a white supremacist is a good idea, or a writer’s organization deciding that white supremacy is the right decision ethically.”

The twitter thread is can’t-miss reading. @courtneymilan read a sample of Somewhere lies the moon. There was a twitter reaction, that will live in infamy. @courtneymilan “And we’ve been talking about Sue Grimshaw? Someone sent me a link to a book written by the other editor, Kathryn Lynn Davis, and is a fucking racist mess.”

The Davis complaint notes that the Milan opinion is based on reading a sample of SLTM. By her own admission, @courtneymilan did not finish the sample, much less read the book. @courtneymilan “Here’s the book. I didn’t finish the sample. I didn’t need to.”

Racism smackdown fans are probably asking, what was so fucking racist messy about SLTM? The accuser is Chinese-American, as is the racially besmirched character. No forbidden words, beginning with N, were used. It is not that type of racism.

The damning nanoagressions are documented in a series of tweets. Here are a few. The part following a link is by @courtneymilan. Transcribed screen shots are identified as (SS). If you click on the link, you can see the entire screen shot. This might help you understand the situation better.

@courtneymilan “This book is like a bingo card of OH GOD DID YOU REALLY. Start out with the heroine, who is the obligatory blue-eyed half-Chinese woman.” (SS) “Lian was twenty-five, tall and lithe, with the thick black hair and bronze skin of the Chinese”@courtneymilan “I mean…. that doesn’t really happen. (Genevra is half-Indian and also blue-eyed.) But also… like. Of course. This is like such a standard racist trope. WHY.”

@courtneymilan “Here is our half-Chinese woman remembering her past, where she is explicitly told that the future is the West, and that for Chinese women, compliance is the rule. SIGH.” (SS)”I am a captive of my own history, but I have raised you to be free, to move forward toward the future – and the future is the West.” “I was no’ askin’ what your parents wanted, but what ye want for yourself” “It is not important. It is not a question I ask myself. In China Shun, compliance, is the rule for women”

@courtneymilan “Here she is, meeting another Chinese family in London. I’m gonna be honest: I don’t know how I feel about “bronze” as the “standard” for Chinese skin (prior tweets), but I *do* know how I feel about “yellow.” And about almond eyes.” (SS) “…their thick blue-black hair and bronze faces, turned slightly yellow by the London climate, were unmistakably Chinese, as were their slanted almond eyes” @courtneymilan “Note that this in Lian’s point of view. She was raised in China. She only describes the Chinese people by skin color/eye slant, not the white people. She’s literally describing absolutely normal people to her as if she were a white woman talking about a foreigner.”

@courtneymilan “Oh, I was searching for something else and found this: In China, women didn’t learn anything.” (SS) “In China, no woman was taught much more than cooking and sewing and the graceful art of pleasing her husband.” Pictures today are from The Library of Congress.

Foot Diary

Posted in Library of Congress, Weekly Notes by chamblee54 on December 9, 2024


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“My Bad” is a compendium of my browsing history from last week. The title is borrowed from a headline, about a certain c-list celebrity. C is the roman numeral for 100, which may, or may not, connect with this person. Link, and the title picture, are in the comments. · Immigration is for Republicans/the right what racism is to Democrats/the left. A good issue to fire up the base with lurid scapegoating. It is usually cynical … however fired up people get, there is little that can be done. · This is a repost from 2018. Dorothy Allison passed away November 6, 2024.. … · this haiku had men in the first part, which gave it an extra beat. To make a proper haiku, the men had to go. This is an analogy of the role of gender in modern society. To fit into a formula, men have got to leave the picture. The 5-7-5 feng shui is more important than mere men. Link in comments. · This is a repost from 2023.. Donald Trump survived nine years of hate speech from Rachel Maddow to win a decisive victory in the November election. The carnage in Gaza continues, and has spread to Lebanon and Syria. MSNBC is not doing well. … · Rachel Maddow’s nine year crusade against whatshisname culminated in an overwhelming Republican victory on November 5. Meanwhile, the Israeli slaughter of Gazan civilians continues, with no comments from the MSNBC Goddess. · Mithras was a Zoroastrian diety, who was a cult figure in the Roman empire. Mithras is said to have a virgin birth, on December 25. Links in the comments. · Salinas CA Japanese-Americans being evacuated from certain West coast areas under United States Army war emergency order, and waiting for transportation to the reception center – Lee, Russell, 1903-1986, photographer May 1942 · @QuoteResearch Your request from Nov 29, 2024 about a quotation attributed to Mark Twain inspired a Quote Investigator article. Thanks! @chamblee54 – Quote Origin: “If Man Could Be Crossed With the Cat It Would Improve Man, But It Would Deteriorate the Cat” · rogan site:chamblee54.wordpress.com · gratuitous public domain photographs today are from The Library of Congress · selah

Mithras

Posted in GSU photo archive, History, Holidays by chamblee54 on December 8, 2024

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Mithras is a Persian deity, from the Zoroaster tradition.(That is pronounced Zor uh THRUS ta.) Not much is known about Mithras … did he really exist, or was he a legend? There was a cult of Mithras in the first century Roman empire.

There are supposed to be similarities between Mithras and Jesus. These include the virgin birth, the birth on December 25, and rising from the dead after three days. Some spoilsports say the early Christians grafted Jesus onto the legend of Mithras.

One indication that this might be true is The Catholic Encyclopedia. “Some apparent similarities exist; but … it is quite probable that Mithraism was the borrower from Christianity.”
This repost has pictures from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. (more…)

Shackjob Betty

Posted in Poem by chamblee54 on December 7, 2024

Rachel Maddow On Gaza

Posted in History, Library of Congress, Politics by chamblee54 on December 6, 2024


This is a repost from 2023. Donald Trump survived nine years of hate speech from Rachel Maddow to win a decisive victory in the November election. The carnage in Gaza continues, and has spread to Lebanon and Syria. MSNBC is not doing well. … Rachel Anne Maddow is the personification of so much that is wrong about american media. Her polemic pushing is entertaining to millions of people. She does for the left what the blowdrys at Fox do for the right. It is the information equivalent of eating all your meals at Burger King.

UN calls Gaza destruction by Israel ‘tragedy of colossal proportions’ This feature will not look at the Palestinian horror from a perspective of Team Israel or Team Gaza.  Instead, we will consider what Rachel Maddow, a media actor trusted by millions, says about the war in Gaza.

I am cable challenged, and do not watch MSNBC. Youtube is little help. I have decided to go to facebook, where The Rachel Maddow Show posts several times a day. I scrolled back to December 12, and did not see one comment about Gaza.

@maddow is not especially active on twitter these days. If you go back to November 4, she retweets a video of Barack Obama. To his credit, Barry uses the word listen, although not as much as talk. Most of Barry’s remarks were about the complexity of the Gaza story. This is similar to Donald Trump saying there are “very fine people, on both sides.”

RAM is also on Instagram, where she posts mostly head shots. It is tough to quickly tell what she is talking about. Pictures today are from The Library of Congress

UPDATE I stumbled onto a quote from RAM about Gaza. “you can’t say, it doesn’t matter what the truth is here” The quote is from October 17, “Rachel Maddow and Nicolle Wallace react to the latest developments out of Gaza after the bombing of a hospital which has left hundreds dead.” 50 seconds after RAM says truth, Nicolle Wallace says “we … does not include Hamas terrorists. They don’t care what the truth is. … Hamas will use Palestinian civilians as human shields. Its what they do.”

Perfection

Posted in Undogegorized by chamblee54 on December 5, 2024


You didn’t grow up · adult duties how hard harsh · figure out feel you

It has been a great morning so far. It would be even better if I can get outside in that cold, wet, December air. Unfortunately, I need to finish writing this post.

ought perfection myth · ability just forgive · happiness toxic

WH Auden wrote a poem once. Epitaph on a tyrant started by saying “Perfection of a kind, was what he was after.” I know this poem because Tom Rapp based a song on it, Footnote. In the alternative version, “burst with laughter” became “laughed at his feet.” The latter version works much better for me, which tells us about the shortcomings of perfection.

mere players exit · Mewling puking whining creep · Mad bubble justice

This haiku had men in the first part, which gave it an extra beat. To make a proper haiku, the men had to go. This is an analogy of the role of gender in modern society. To fit into a formula, men have got to leave the picture. The  5-7-5 feng shui is  more important than mere men.

aria talents · regard their crackpot fool who · rant their loyalty

The comparison of an aria … the showstopper solo in an opera … to the ravings of the common media myrmidon, endlessly braying about what their sponsors want to hear … can make the a crackpot fool seem like a prophet in his own land.

American rig · chic society edges · Republican smash

Rig is a word with many uses. Rig rhymes with the first syllable of popular six letter word, and is sometimes used as a euphemism. When chic society edges towards its Republican climax, powered by the American rig used to inject hard drugs into quivering veins, edging with delight at the anticipation of another fix of TRUTH, then one can only marvel at the spectacle.

sorry traveler · looked down under the other · grassy passing worn

Bobby Frost was lucky to be born when he was. He does not see one of his best lines corrupted by the fence building industry. He was a 20th century traveler, looking down from under the other, on his way to the grassy, passing knoll. The other is used to it.

L5PB December

Posted in Georgia History, Poem by chamblee54 on December 4, 2024


The December Little 5 Poetry Bash was held in the doorway between Java Lords and 7 Stages. JL had festive lighting, and turned the performers red, blue, green, and white by turns. This was especially flattering for L5PB majordomo Han Vance, who was dressed like an Elf. Han read selections for a stack of chap books, and was highly entertaining. There is something about being in the same room as someone, and able to hear them clearly, that just adds to the enjoyment of the evening.

Mitchell Padgett was the feature, and read for a while. Since there were only a handful of poets, you could read as much as you wanted to. Mitchell later expressed disappointment at the sparse crowd, which I could only agree with. Performing for your own enjoyment has its limits.

As I said, it was a tiny crowd, consisting mostly of fellow performers. We did have a newcomer, Johanna Smith. It is always fun to have more people, and maybe it will happen next month.

L5PB is not without disappointments. On my last visit to the fabled JL bathroom, the thumb lock was stuck, and the door was jar for my last piss of the night. If I had to shit, it would have been show time. Or I could not shit, and go blind instead. Stevie Wonder does not recommend this option.

After finding my vehicle intact and unbooted, I made my way up to N. Highland. When I got to the exit for the Ex-Pres-way, I took a left. You only die once, and the potholes come faster on the freeway, instead of the agonizing death of a thousand jostles on Briarcliff Road. Meanwhile, I was button pushing on the radio, and found a new episode of Drabblecast. Strange stories, by Strange authors, for Strange listeners. Unfortunately, this was not one of their better episodes, and I turned to this month’s New Yorker fiction podcast, which sucked in it’s own NPR-listening way. Sometimes free downloads are worth what you pay for them.

The last disappointment came on the trip home. I cherish my L5PB junk food run, and could already taste the ambrosial mystery meat from Taco Bell. Unfortunately, this facility is now only open 9am – 3am on Sunday. I backtracked across North Druid Hills, with it’s Byzantine construction projects, to the Burger King, next to the Arthur M. Blank hospital. BK is part of the hospital supply chain.

Bastard Out of Carolina

Posted in Book Reports, Library of Congress by chamblee54 on December 3, 2024


This is a repost from 2018. Dorothy Allison passed away November 6, 2024. … Bastard Out of Carolina is a much praised novel. Dorothy Allison wrote it. When I saw it at a used book sale, I hesitated. The lady taking the money said, “if you don’t want that book, I will take it.” I went ahead and gave the lady one dollar, and took home BOOC.

Bone is the illegitimate hero of BOOC. Her birth certificate has ILLEGITIMATE stamped across the bottom, in “oversized red-inked block letters.” Anney, the mother, makes repeated visits to the county courthouse, trying to get the certificate de-bastardized. Finally, when Bone is 12, Anney succeeds. By then it is too late.

The Boatwrights are a large family. They live in Greenville, South Carolina. BOOC is set in the fifties. PG was never really sure how many aunts and uncles Bone has. Maybe that is the idea.

The characters in BOOC are what some people would call white trash. Money is always a problem. The men drink and fight. The women do what they can. The kids are kids, until it is their turn to get locked up, or knocked up.

After Anney has two girls, she meets Glen Waddell. He is the villain of BOOC. An all around fuck up, Daddy Glen sexually abuses Bone. This is only spelled out in two episodes. The verbal/physical abuse is there all the time.

An Essential Novel About Poverty, Bigotry, and Sexual Abuse, Twenty-Five Years Later is an article that googled its way into this book report. Some urban writers are fascinated by racism. Dorothy Allison keeps racism in its place. There are no black characters in BOOC. The Boatwrights say n****r. The reader comes to learn that the Boatwrights would have been just as poor, just as drunk, and just as trashy in an all white county. Whiteness is part of the story, just like the muddy river flowing past Aunt Raylene’s house.

BOOC has a lot of details, and atmosphere. In a radio interview, Dorothy Allison says something. “Oh, I want that — you know what Nabokov called it, that sob in the spine, that where you’re reading and suddenly it just stops you, and you’re like ah! That’s what I want. I want you to take a deep breath, and if I’m really lucky, I want you to throw the book at the wall.” Paperbacks do less damage.

Pictures today are from The Library of Congress. Russell Lee took the pictures in Missouri. The date was August, 1938.

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My Bad

Posted in Library of Congress, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on December 2, 2024


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This is a repost from the murky past. The college on N. Indian Creek Dr. is now known as “GSU Perimeter College – Clarkston Campus” The Watering Hole was torn down, and is now Top express car wash. Abortion has been legalized, and re-criminalized. Atlanta still has a lot more Peachtrees than peach trees. … · There is a tray. I found it at a yard sale, or thrown away, years and years ago. It sat unused in the tool shed until Mac got sick, at which point it became invaluable. 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Mr. Crouch is a stonemason by profession and lives on his farm where a little farming is done.” Jack Delano took the photograph in November 1940. · Why is there a light in the fridge and not in the freezer? Why does Goofy stand erect while Pluto remains on all fours? They’re both dogs! If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests? If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, then what is baby oil made from? Link in comments · ‘If man could be crossed with a cat, it would improve man but deteriorate the cat.” This item turned up in a giftshop poster about cats. It was credited to/blamed on Mark Twain. A lady said, in the comments, this is one of my favorite quotes from Mark Twain. The Twain wikiquotes does not have an entry with deteriorate. There are five references to cat, all in a single quote from “A Tramp Abroad.” “You may say a cat uses good grammar. Well, a cat does — but you let a cat get excited once; you let a cat get to pulling fur with another cat on a shed, nights, and you’ll hear grammar that will give you the lockjaw. Ignorant people think it’s the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain’t so; it’s the sickening grammar they use.” · “If man could be crossed with a cat, it would improve man but deteriorate the cat.” Twain’s wikiquotes has 5 cat references, all from “A Tramp Abroad.” “… people think it’s the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain’t so; it’s the sickening grammar they use.” · Frank Zappa and the Mothers played at Frenchy’s House of BBQ, Hayward, CA, May 6-26, 1966. On May 21, they were the backing band for Neil Diamond. Link in comments. · “Tuning ’77” – a seamless audio supercut of an entire year of the Grateful Dead tuning their instruments, live on stage. 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Posted in Georgia History, History, Holidays by chamblee54 on December 1, 2024

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Alan Burnett~Bill Gaddy~Bill Medlock~Bill Meneely~Blaze Mills~Buddy Conine
Calvin Bunn~Danny Fields~David Chewning~David Hadden~Charlie Hall~Dwight Dunaway
Freeman Waldrop~Gary Hunton~Gene Haynes~Gene Holloway~Gibson Higgins~Glenn Krause
Greg Scott~Harold King~Hawk~Jerry Pyschka~Jim Anderson~Jim Ferguson
Jim Woodward~Joe Kenney~Joe Vickery~John Kelley~John Harllee~Jon Gordon
King Thackston~Larry Jackson~Layton Gregory~Lee Mullis~Les Friessen
Mac Wilson~Manfred Ibis~Mark Keenum~Mark Rosen~Martin Isganitus
Michael Dollins~Micheal Mason~Mike Perling~Moon Moore~O’Gene Donohue
Purl Sudds~Ron Davis~Sam Mitchell~Skeeter Smith~Steve Bedworth~Stuart Davis
Ti Barfield~Tom Aderhold~Tom Selman~Tom Williams~Trion~Winston Morriss

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Andy Warhol And Frank Zappa

Posted in History, Library of Congress, Music by chamblee54 on November 30, 2024


Andy Warhol Hosts Frank Zappa on His Cable TV Show, and Later Recalls, “I Hated Him More Than Ever” After the Show.” Andy had a public access cable tv show in New York. One of his guests was Frank Zappa. FZ talked a lot, while Andy was silently uncomfortable. A friend of Andy’s, Richard Berlin, did the interview. Mr. Berlin is possibly the brother of Warhol film actress Brigid Berlin.

The Andy Warhol Diaries has a few comments about the show. “… I hated Zappa even more than when it started. I remember when he was so mean to us when the Mothers of Invention played with the Velvet Underground—I think both at the trip, in L.A., and at the Fillmore in San Francisco. I hated him then and I still don’t like him.”

Jimmy Carl Black (The “Indian of the group” for the Mothers of Invention): “I don’t remember Zappa actually putting them down on stage, but he might have. He really disliked the band. For what reasons I really don’t know, except that they were junkies and Frank just couldn’t tolerate any kind of drugs. I know that I didn’t feel that way and neither did the rest of the Mothers. I thought that they were very good, especially Nico (whom I secretly fell in love with or was it lust?). I especially thought that Moe was a very good drummer, because in those days I don’t recall there being any other female drummers on the scene. The thinking of the audiences was completely different than those from New York City. They were lukewarmly received.”

“In 1965 The Trip opened at 8572 Sunset Boulevard right next to the towering Playboy Club building. The Trip was located in the former popular 60s jazz club called the Crescendo. There was a comedy club upstairs called the Interlude. … The Velvet Underground and Nico are the musical guests at a series of shows at The Trip nightclub on Sunset Strip in 1966, but it is their manager, Andy Warhol, who is the headliner with his outrageous, multi-media Exploding Plastic Inevitable Show.” …

“On May 3, 1966 I was serving drinks in the celebrity section at The Trip. Jane Fonda is seated and she orders a drink and I asked her for ID. She removes her sunglasses and says, Do you know who I am? … Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention are the opening act the first night. At the end of the set they receive a standing ovation and cheers from the audience.”

“The Exploding Plastic Inevitable Show started after The Velvet Underground played a couple of songs. … When your eyes adjusted to the manipulation of the light what you saw was an interaction between Nico and two men, one who carried a whip, the other chains. It was an illusion, I think, of sadism, not at all acceptable to peace loving hippies. … The EPI featured a mixed media orgy that included film loops, music by the Velvets, sadomasochistic dancing and an epileptic lightshow.”

“Before the first set was over people stared to walk out of the club. Cher said “It depressed me. It will replace nothing – except maybe suicide.” People were standing up at their tables, booing as they waited their turn to leave the club. The line for the second show circled the block but the customers leaving started warning people not to go in. They said the show was vulgar and violent. The line got smaller and smaller until only a handful of people remained.”

“The Buffalo Springfield is playing the Whisky A Go Go as the opening act and is free to leave at 12:45 am. They walk to The Trip in time to see the feature act. … The musicians are equally offended by the appearance of sexual violence and what they assumed was part of the Velvet Underground’s act. It was later that we realized that Andy is the creator of the act of violence. … There is more then one story about why on the third day of the New Yorker’s show, L.A. Sheriff’s officers closed The Trip.”

“The show was cancelled before the advertised end date of its run. According to Callie Angell “On May 12, the club was temporarily closed when Virgina Greenhouse, wife of one of the operators, sued to collect a $21,000 over-due promissory note, and a representative of the sheriff’s office delivered a writ of attachment to the club. Warhol and the Velvet Underground filed a claim for their fee with the local musicians’ union, and were forced to wait in Los Angeles for payment to arrive.” According to Bockris, the club was “closed down by the Sheriff’s office on their third day. The troupe stay in LA, hoping the club would re-open, and the musicians’ union said if they stayed in town for the (union rules) duration of their engagement they would have to be paid the complete fee. They used the time to continue recording the first album.”

The Trip, engagement was supposed to be May 3 -18, 1966, at least for EPI. The Mothers (not yet of Invention) headed north after the show. … “May 6-26, 1966 Frenchy’s House of BBQ, Hayward, CA (on the 21st they backed Neil Diamond who played a one night stand) … May 27-29, 1966 Fillmore Auditorium , San Francisco, CA (The Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Supporting Velvet Underground & Nico) … June 3-4, 1966 Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA (supporting Quicksilver Messenger Service & The Grateful Dead) … June 24-25, 1966 Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco, CA (supporting Lenny Bruce).” Lenny Bruce died August 3, 1966.

“The Exploding Plastic Inevitable arrived in San Francisco to play for two nights at BILL GRAHAM’s Fillmore Ball Room with the MOTHERS OF INVENTION and the early JEFFERSON AIRPLANE. The Warhol crowd hated the hippie culture of San Francisco. Bill Graham pulled the plug on the Velvets the second night when the band left the stage after leaning their instruments against the amplifiers creating a “barrage of sonic feedback”.

“John Cale: “In San Francisco, we played the Fillmore and no one liked us much. We put the guitars against the amps, turned up, played percussion and then split. Bill Graham came into the dressing room and said, “You owe me 20 more minutes.” I’d dropped a cymbal on Lou’s head and he was bleeding. “Is he hurt?” Graham said. “We’re not insured.””

“After the second night in San Francisco Gerard Malanga was arrested in an all night cafeteria in North Beach for carrying an offensive weapon (his whip) and spent the night in jail. … While In San Francisco, Lou Reed shot up some bad speed causing his joints to seize up and he was incorrectly diagnosed as having a terminal case of lupus. Upon their return to New York, Lou Reed checked into Beth Israel hospital with a serious case of hepatitis and had a six week course of treatment. Nico left for Ibiza while the rest of the Velvets started rehearsing for an upcoming June booking in Chicago – a one week stint at Poor Richard’s. ANGUS MACLISE returned as drummer and MAUREEN TUCKER switched to playing bass.”

The VU and The Mothers of Invention both recorded on the MGM/Verve label. According to some, this caused problems. “The band believed that Zappa used his clout to hold back their release in favor of his own album with the Mothers of Invention, Freak Out. “The problem [was] Frank Zappa and his manager, Herb Cohen,” said (Sterling) Morrison. “They sabotaged us in a number of ways, because they wanted to be the first with a freak release. And we were totally naive. We didn’t have a manager who would go to the record company every day and just drag the whole thing through production.” (John) Cale claimed that the band’s wealthy patron affected the label’s judgment. “Verve’s promotional department [took] the attitude, ‘Zero bucks for VU, because they’ve got Andy Warhol; let’s give all the bucks to Zappa.’”

“On October 23, 1967, in New York, singer Nico sang with The Velvet Underground. (This list of VU performances does not mention a show on that date) … Nico’s delivery of her material was very flat, deadpan, and expressionless, and she played as though all of her songs were dirges. She seemed as though she was trying to resurrect the ennui and decadence of Weimar, pre-Hitler Germany. Her icy, Nordic image also added to the detachment of her delivery. … In between sets, Frank Zappa got up from his seat and walked up on the stage and sat behind the keyboard of Nico’s B-3 organ. He proceeded to place his hands indiscriminately on the keyboard in a total, atonal fashion and screamed at the top of his lungs, doing a caricature of Nico’s set, the one he had just seen. The words to his impromptu song were the names of vegetables like broccolli, cabbage, asparagus… This “song” kept going for about a minute or so and then suddenly stopped. He walked off the stage and the show moved on. It was one of the greatest pieces of rock ‘n roll theater that I have ever seen.”

The Library of Congress furnished the pictures for this feature. This is a repost.