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I believe Mr. Coates went to the West Bank, not Gaza. · I have not read “The Message” in spite of John’s efforts to promote it. · I found this article, and had the vague sense that I had read it before. Then I saw that riff with Gary Indiana, and I knew I had already read it, and did not want to read any more · The social media picture was taken July 12, 1955. “First National Bank and Pabst Blue Ribbon signs” · here is the monday morning reader for today. The quicksand topic last week was the Jordan Peterson nothing debate. When I was telling a friend about it yesterday, his reaction: Who is Jordan Peterson? · The social media picture: “Peachtree Street at night, downtown Atlanta, Georgia, 1937.” This is a repost from 2023. · today is the third of June. Did Billy Joe jump off a wooden bridge, over the Tallahatchie River near Money MS? This is the location of Bryant’s Grocery Store … where Carolyn Bryant was working one afternoon, when Emmett Till came in the store. · This is a repost from 2018. Pictures today are from The Library of Congress Russell Lee took the social media picture in August 1937. “Resident of Ericsburg, Minnesota” · In 2016, I published a poem, Then They Came. … first they came for the rich, i clicked like on facebook, then they came for #racists, i tweeted a #woke #hashtag, then they came for truth tellers, i gave my #thoughts&prayers, then they came for me. A person complained that I made this about “racists”. Which was my point. People get called racist for the flimsiest of reasons, and can suffer severe consequences. · The Elie Wiesel speech, Always take sides, is another example of this. · according to legend, someone asked Martin Niemöller if he included Catholics, in his famous poem “First They Came.” “I never said it. They can take care of themselves.” · The social media picture was taken September 23, 1968. “Buck Owens promotional visit … Capitol Records Distribution Corporation; Riviera Motel” · On March 13, 1988, Halabja was attacked with chemical weapons. Iraq, governed by Saddam Hussein, was almost certainly the culprit. Iraq was in a horrific war with Iran, and was supported by the United States, governed by Ronald Reagan. The United States tried to cover up the attack by blaming Iran. · The Iran-Iraq war had gone on for eight years at this point. Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of people died in that war. Iraq invaded Iran in 1980. At that time, Iran was holding Americans hostage. Many people wanted to bomb bomb bomb Iran. We were happy to see someone else do the dirty work. The United States gave vast amounts of support to Iraq, in its effort to wipe out the Islamic Republic. · There was speculation that the west was encouraging Iran and Iraq to fight as long as they could. The thinking went that when they were fighting each other, they were not fighting Israel. Perhaps if the warring parties had been encouraged to negotiate an end to the conflict, then the chemical weapons attack would not have taken place. · This was after the Iran Contra scandal. This was when the United States was selling arms to Iran, with the help of an Israeli middleman. This was at the same time we were supporting the Iraqi army. We were arming both sides of this horrific war · In 2014, Matt Walsh was a mere blogger, having comment fights with readers · so the r-word is retarded and not racist. I have a good story about the r-word, meaning mentally challenged. This man has a “challenged” brother. All his life, the r-word had been forbidden, and the challenged brother had never heard the word retarded. So, this man brings his boyfriend to meet the family, and the bf slips up and says retarded. Later, the challenged brother asked his mother what that word meant. His mom explains it to him. The challenged brother then said, “oh, I thought it had something to do with being gay · here is a selection of stories from 2008. Included are Neal Boortz, Lester Maddox, Barack H Obama, and Tom Waits. The picture below: “Jack Whinery, homesteader, and his family, Pie Town, New Mexico” · This is a repost from 2009, based on a Listserve article, 15 Fascinating Facts About Toilets. LS continues to produce fresh content in 2025. Pictures today are from The Library of Congress. The social media picture was taken January 7, 1911. “Bris (Briscoe Robotham) Lord, outfielder for the Philadelphia Athletics”. … Selah · These are borrowed from a site called Listserve. LS has lots of lists, and is publishing fresh content in 2025. · 90% of pharmaceuticals taken by people are eliminated through urination. Therefore our sewer systems contain heavy doses of drugs. A recent study by the EPA has found fish containing trace amounts of estrogen, cholesterol-lowering drugs, pain relievers, antibiotics, caffeine and even anti-depressants. Modern urine is expensive · @barrypopik “I’ve created a website selling and delivering #sausages over the #Internet. I’ll send you the #link” · when nothing moves you, if wishing in your hand doesn’t deliver, there is always a bowl of fruit, if the writing prompt does not lead to victory, stymied by writers tackle once again, · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken October 19, 1955. “14th Street and Expressway” · selah
Rebelling Against God
This is a repost from 2014. … Matt Walsh put up a post, We can’t end ‘rape culture’ if we don’t end hook-up culture. (Internet archive does not have a copy.) Now, RC/HUC are dodgy concepts. Just last week, I saw a post about RC, that started “If you are a man, you are part of rape culture.”
OTOH, the “blogger, writer, and professional sayer of truths” has a wide audience. Any trickle down to this slack blog would be appreciated. The BWPST also answers comments, using a psuedonym. He is easily provoked. If you don’t want trolls to start trouble, then you should not answer them. Some people are easily amused.
The fun started when BWPST said “Just like every other problem in the culture, it’s ALL about rebellion against God.” When a Christian talks about God, he usually means something very different from what I think. One of the few things that I believe is God does not write books. I made a comment, and the fun began. Entertainment is not what it used to be.
chamblee54 “Just like every other problem in the culture, it’s ALL about rebellion against God.” The first commandment says to hold no other God before you. This does not mean a book. When you declare a book, compiled by a Catholic committee, to be the word of God, then you are violating this common sense rule. Violating this rule causes problems. Mo, are you Matt? · Mo @ chamblee54 “The first commandment says to hold no other G-d before you. This does not mean a book.”What on EARTH are you talking about? “When you declare a book, compiled by a Catholic committee, to be the word of G-d, then you are violating this common sense rule.” I haven’t declared anything, especially anything regarding Catholicism, as I am not Catholic. Show me where I mentioned anything about Catholicism? Nor did Catholics compile the Word of God. Take your nonsense elsewhere. I have zero time or patience for it. · chamblee54 Mo, are you Matt? · Mo @ chamblee54 “Mo, are you Matt?” How about addressing the POINTS I made to you and the questions I asked? Another troll, capable of nothing but repeating the same nonsense over and over.
chamblee54 Ok, I don’t know where, or if, you said anything about the Roman Catholic Church. My point was about the Bible. The canon of the Christian church was compiled by a group of men. I might be mistaken on this point, but I believe they were Catholics. Whether of not the compilers of the bible were, or were not, Catholic is beside the point I want to make. That point is that the bible is not the word of God. God does not write books. When you confuse a book for God, you violate the first commandment. “How about addressing the POINTS I made to you and the questions I asked?” “Take your nonsense elsewhere. I have zero time or patience for it.” This is a contradiction. · Mo @ chamblee54 “Ok, I don’t know where, or if, you said anything about the Roman Catholic Church.” Okay, then your comment has no point since that’s what’s your crabbing about. Go troll someone else. Do not waste my time.
That is the end of the Matt Walsh/chamblee54 showdown. …We should take a look at the idea of “rebellion against God.” When you assume that a book contains the “word of God,” and use that assumption as a weapon to attack other people, that would seem to be “rebellion against God.” When you believe that a soveriegn deity is interested in your petty quarells, that might be “rebellion against God.” When you spend your time arguing with “trolls,” that might not be “rebellion against God,” but it looks foolish to those who don’t share your beliefs. · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library The social media picture was taken September 25, 1968. Union Camp Corporation United Appeal campaign.
Halabja
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “On March 13, 1988, Iraq used poison gas to kill thousands of people in Halabja (ha lahb jah). A largely Kurdish town near the Iranian border, Halabja was the scene of much resistance to the War that Iraq and Iran were waging. The United States was “tilting” towards Iraq in this conflict. When Iraq invaded Iran (probably with the encouragement of the United States), Iran was holding Americans hostage in Tehran. This was a source of much anger towards Iran, and would be one reason for America to support Iraq.” …
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “The support for Iraq took the form of financial aid, shared intelligence, and a blind eye to Iraqi use of weapons of mass destruction. After the massacre in Halabja, The United States blamed Iran. There is also the question of where Iraq got the poison gas. Saddam was executed before he could go to trial on charges related to Halabja. There is also evidence that Iran was involved. According to Libcom.org, “On 13 March 1988 chemical bombs were dropped on Halabja. No Pasdaran nor Peshmargan were killed.” …
This material was originally published June 21, 2008. … “The New York Times has an excellent piece on the massacre. A key quote: “Some of those who engineered the tilt today are back in power in the Bush administration. They have yet to account for their judgment that it was Iran, not Iraq, that posed the primary threat to the Gulf; for building up Iraq so that it thought it could invade Kuwait and get away with it; for encouraging Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs by giving the regime a de facto green light on chemical weapons use” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “On March 13, 1988, the city of Halabja in Iraqi Kurdistan was almost completely destroyed by the Iraqi armed forces using chemical weapons, supplied by the West. Around 5,000 people were killed at the time and many more more died from their injuries over the next few weeks. Halabja was not chosen arbitrarily as the site for such a massacre. It had been a major site of proletarian struggle against the Iran-Iraq war There was at least one deserter in every house, and sometimes four or five.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “During 1987 the Iraqi government destroyed 45 villages around Halabja, using explosives to completely demolish all the houses. The inhabitants poured into Halabja, swelling the population to around 110,000. Almost all the young men in these villages had been deserters from the army. They were not just dropping out of the war but were always discussing ways of doing something against it. The influx of people led to a severe housing shortage and there were no jobs for most people. All the time there was talk amongst the unemployed about what to do about the war.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “In 1987, three types of army existed in Halabja, in addition to the Iraqi army: a) Clan Armies … b) The Home Guard – This was by far the largest army. It was not uniformed and had very few weapons. It was the army that deserters joined … c) The Bounty Hunters – This was a small force which acted with extreme viciousness on behalf of the state. Their main function was to force deserters to join the Home Guard. After the massacre most of these scum went to Iran to do the same job for the Iranian state.” …
This material was originally published September 11, 2006. … “All the talk about stopping the government from destroying Halabja turned to action on 13 May 1987, when militants occupied the mosques and used the loudspeakers to call for the organisation of an uprising. Mosques were used because they were the most suitable buildings in which to hold mass meetings. This was ironic because for weeks before the priests had been giving a special talk after each Friday prayer meeting on… the evils of communist subversion! Almost the whole working clan population of Halabja was awake that night discussing and organising.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … This was at a time when Iraq was launching what proved to be the final battles of the war against Iran. Its wholesale use of poison gas against Iranian troops and Iranian Kurdish towns, and its threat to place chemical warheads on the missiles it was lobbing at Tehran, brought Iran to its knees. Iraq had also just embarked on a counterinsurgency campaign, called the Anfal, against its rebellious Kurds. In this effort, too, the regime’s resort to chemical weapons gave it a decisive edge, enabling the systematic killing of an estimated 100,000 men, women, and children.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … “The deliberate American prevarication on Halabja was the logical outcome of a pronounced six-year tilt toward Iraq, seen as a bulwark against the perceived threat posed by Iran. The United States began the tilt after Iraq, the aggressor in the war, was expelled from Iranian territory by Iran, which then decided to pursue regime change in Baghdad. Sensing correctly that it had carte blanche, Saddam’s regime escalated its resort to gas warfare, graduating to ever more lethal agents. Because of the strong Western animus against Iran, few paid heed. Then came Halabja.” …
This material was originally published January 17, 2003 … “The United States launched the “Iran too” gambit. … A State Department document demonstrates that U.S. diplomats received instructions to press this line with U.S. allies, and to decline to discuss the details. It took seven weeks for the UN Security Council to censure the Halabja attack. Even then, its choice of neutral language diffused the effect of its belated move. Iraq proceeded to step up its use of gas until the end of the war and even afterward, during the final stage of the Anfal campaign, to devastating effect.” … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken September 23, 1968. “Buck Owens promotional visit, Riviera Motel”
Carolyn Bryant Donham
On August 24, 1955, Emmett Louis Till (ELT) went into Bryant’s Grocery & Meat Market, in Money MS. Later, the cashier, Carolyn Bryant Donham (CBD), falsely accused ELT of making improper advances. Four days later, fourteen year old ELT was brutally murdered by Roy Bryant, the husband of CBD, and JW Milam. This is the story I had always heard, and routinely accepted as the truth.
Recently, I saw a video that told a different story. In this version, a third party told Roy Bryant about the incident. More importantly, CBD never recanted her story. When The Blood of Emmett Till came out, news that CBD had recanted her story caused a sensation. The video had a screen shot of a newspaper article, with details about the non-confession.
“Timothy Tyson’s book on Emmett Till became a bestseller thanks to the bombshell quote he attributed to Carolyn Bryant Donham — that she lied when she testified about Till accosting her. Donham’s daughter-in-law, Marsha Bryant, who was present for the two tape-recorded interviews Tyson did with Donham, said her mother-in-law “never recanted. Adding to the intrigue is the fact the quote Tyson attributed to Donham isn’t on the recordings. … “It is true that that part is not on tape because I was setting up the tape recorder,” Tyson said.”
“Davis Houck, co-author of Emmett Till and the Mississippi Press, said if Donham is saying she didn’t recant in her interview with Tyson, “we’re left with a familiar story: a predatory black ‘man’ threatened to rape her on the evening of Aug. 24. “He sees two problems with that: Her court testimony differs greatly from her initial statement, where she said Till grabbed her hand, asked for a date, said goodbye and whistled. When Till’s killers arrived at Mose Wright’s house, (where Till was abducted) they asked for “the boy who did the talking at Money.” They didn’t ask for the one who touched Donham. If she indeed recanted, he said, “we are, at long last, asked to see her as a pawn in the defense attorneys’ strategy.”
A Justice Department investigation found no proof that CBD recanted her initial accusation. “Donham denied to federal investigators that she lied in her testimony, a source with knowledge of the case said, and there were inconsistencies with statements made by Tyson. … Tyson stood by his reporting, describing Donham as unreliable in an emailed statement.” It is possible that Timothy Tyson invented the story to sell books.
So what did happen at the store in Money, MS? “Emmett was left alone in the store for a minute or so with Carolyn Bryant, the white woman working the store’s cash register. … As Carolyn Bryant would later tell the story in a Tallahatchie County courthouse, Till asked her for some candy inside a candy counter. When Bryant placed the candy on top of the counter, Till grabbed her right hand tightly and asked, “How about a date, baby?” When Bryant pulled her hand free and started to walk away, Till grabbed her by the waist near the cash register and told her, “You needn’t be afraid of me, baby I’ve [slept] with white women before.”
“Till’s cousin, Simeon Wright, writing about the incident decades later, questioned Carolyn Bryant’s account. Entering the store “less than a minute” after Till was left inside alone with Bryant, Wright saw no inappropriate behavior and heard “no lecherous conversation.” Wright said Till “paid for his items and we left the store together.”
“There is, however, general agreement about what happened next outside the store. As Carolyn Bryant left the store and headed towards a car … Emmett whistled at her. Till’s cousin described it as “a loud wolf whistle, a big city ‘whee wheeeee!'” Till’s Mississippi cousins instantly knew that Till had broken a longstanding taboo relating to social conduct between blacks and whites, and that they were in grave danger. They quickly ran to their car and sped out of Money.”
The story about the *kid* from Chicago loudly whistling at CBD was a hot item in local conversations. Three days later,”Roy Bryant, Carolyn’s husband, returns to Mississippi after working on a shrimping boat in Texas. That afternoon, at the store, an African-American teenager tells Roy about the August 24 incident at the store involving Till and his wife. When he asks Carolyn about the incident, she urges her husband to forget about it. But he doesn’t. … To do nothing after hearing the story involving his wife, Bryant later told an interviewer, would have shown himself to be “a coward and a fool.”
“Sometime on Saturday August 27, plans fell into place to kidnap the offending black teenager and “teach him a lesson.” Bryant’s half-brother, John W. Milam, readily agreed to help. … According to historian Hugh Whitaker, who interviewed dozens of Mississippians who knew Bryant and Milam, the two “were invariably referred to as ‘peckerwoods,’ ‘white trash,’ and other terms of disappropriation.”
“Within the next few hours, Bryant and Milam somehow learned that the wolf-whistler was staying at the home of “Preacher” Moses Wright. At 2:30 a.m., a vehicle with headlights off pulled up in front of Wright’s home east of Money. … When Wright went to the door, the man identified himself as Roy Bryant and said that he wanted to talk to “a fat boy” from Chicago. Standing on the porch with Bryant were Milam and a black man, hiding his face, who (according to his own later admission) was Otha Johnson, Milam’s odd-job man. The men searched the occupied beds looking for Till. Coming to Till’s bed, Milam shined a flashlight in the boy’s face and asked, “You the niggah that did the talking down at Money?” When Till answered, “Yeah,” Milam said, “Don’t say ‘yeah’ to me, niggah. I’ll blow your head off. Get your clothes on.” Warning the Wrights they’d be killed if they told anyone they had come by, Milam and Wright ushered Till out of the house and to their parked vehicle. Standing on the porch looking out into the dark, Moses Wright heard a woman’s voice–possibly Carolyn Bryant’s–from inside the vehicle tell the abductors they had found the right boy. What happened over the next three or four hours is not known for certain.”
An FBI document has conflicting details. “After deciding to kill Till, they traveled to a cotton gin at Boyle MS and picked up a discarded gin fan there. Milam is quoted as saying “When we got to that gin, it was daylight, and I was worried for the first time. Someone might see us and accuse us of stealing the fan.” … “They took Till’s body to a bridge in a secluded area, affixed the gin fan to Till and threw him off the bridge, into the Tallahatchie River” … “Two blacks, who worked for the Milams, were part of the group that beat and killed Till. One of the blacks discovered Till wasn’t dead so the two blacks killed him and helped in the disposal of his body.” At any rate, ELT was murdered, the gin fan was tied to his body, and the body was dumped in the Tallahatchie River.
One surprising detail is the participation of Black men in the crime. “Two potential key witnesses, both blacks who allegedly assisted with the abduction and murder of Till, were unavailable to the prosecution. Both Leroy “Too Tight” Collins and Henry Loggins, who prosecutors assumed only to be missing, were actually being held under false identities in a jail in Charleston, Mississippi under orders of Sheriff H. C. Strider, who had thrown the full weight of his office behind the defense efforts.”
Today is the third of June. Did Billy Joe McCallister jump into the Tallahatchie River? “Ode to Billy Joe” is a made up story. Choctaw Ridge is nowhere near the Tallahatchie River. Wikipedia does have an interesting comment about the Tallahatchie Bridge. “The wooden bridge collapsed in 1972 after being set alight by vandals. It crossed the Tallahatchie River at Money, about ten miles north of Greenwood.” Money is where Bryant’s Grocery Store is. The name changed soon after the murder, and the store is now in dilapidated shape.
“To say that Bryant “made it all up” implies that she lied about the wolf-whistle, also. It is important to point out, however, that Till’s cousins — Maurice Wright, Simeon Wright, and Wheeler Parker — who witnessed the incident, were the ones who told the press about the whistle just days after it occurred. Bryant herself said nothing about the whistle publicly until the murder trial. Thus all news reports about the whistle up to the trial came directly from Till’s cousins.”
“But it was at the trial where Bryant added some sensational details that seemed to come out of nowhere, and this is where she lied. … Just five days after the murder, with her husband and brother-in-law sitting in jail, she told defense attorney Sidney Carlton a different story than the one she would tell in court three weeks later. Carlton’s hand-written notes make no mention of the more salacious parts. “Wednesday Aug. 24 about 7:30 or 8 P.M. (dark) boy came to candy counter & I waited on him & when I went to take money he grabbed my hand & said ‘how about a date’ and I walked away from him and he said ‘what’s the matter Baby can’t you take it?’ He went out door and said ‘goodbye’ and I went out to car & got pistol and when I came back he whistled at me—this whistle while I was going after pistol—didn’t do anything further after he saw pistol.’”
“Because Bryant’s story developed after Till’s death, it is clear the lies she told on the stand did not lead to murder but came later for the benefit of the jury in order to guarantee an acquittal. Also, Carolyn Bryant is not the one who told her husband about the store incident in the first place. He was out of town at the time but heard it three days after the fact from one of the young teens who was present at the store the night of the incident. … Carolyn only confirmed the incident to Roy after he confronted her. … Tyson told another detail about Bryant’s false story in a paper leaked online in 2014, saying it was concocted for her to use by defense attorneys and Bryant family members. For whatever reason, Tyson did not include this detail in his book. It is not on the notepad and presumably, is not on tape either.”
@GavinNewsom “His physical mannerisms are aggressive…I feel threatened by him.”-Marjorie Taylor Greene describing Rep. Bowman This is the kind of dangerous rhetoric that led to Emmett Till’s death. Everyone should call this out for what it is: blatant racism.” This type of overheated rhetoric is becoming common. It is based on a cynical version of a tragic history. It does not honor the memory of Emmett Till. “Everyone should call this out for what it is: blatant racism.”
Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, GSU Library. The social media picture: “Peachtree Street at night, downtown Atlanta, Georgia, 1937.” This is a repost from 2023.
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“Atheists reject God, but they don’t understand what they’re rejecting” Do Christians understand the God they are accepting? · @GadSaad I’m not a fan of some of Greenwald’s positions but this is truly reprehensible. The culprits are criminally engaging in consequentialist ethics, which demonstrates the importance of adhering to deontological principles on such matters. · Russell Lee took the social media picture in May 1938. “Carnival employee sleeping in hammock underneath wagon. Lasses-White show. Sikeston, Missouri” · Theo Von – they might have some drawings of me having sex — Chad Ochocinco – Are you married? — Theo Von – no i got to get married man — Chad – do you have a girlfriend? — Theo – not right now no i’m going to get one — Theo’s body language here is fun to watch. @TheoVon @ochocinco · At 4:20 in the video, @ochocinco explains the term “Mandingo” to @TheoVon – “oh it’s a it’s a wiener term · kind of · oh dang i didn’t know it” · here is the monday morning reader for this week. If you are not satisfied with the product, your fee of admission will be cheerfully refunded. · Russell Lee took the social media picture in February 1940. “Wife of Pomp Hall, right, talking with another woman at UCAPAWA (United Cannery, Agricultural, Packing, and Allied Workers of America) meeting at Bristow, Oklahoma.” · Manley Pointer is a recovering Bible salesman, and the son of Georgia Tech legend George P. Burdell. Mr. Pointer is currently a poet in Atlanta GA. This is his story. · the way jubilee changed the title from “1 Christian vs 20 Atheists (ft. Jordan Peterson)” to “Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists” after 4 hours is so funny · … Exogenous means “produced by growth from superficial tissue”, and apparently has little to do with the Bible. Thats the cool thing about big words … nobody knows what they mean when you spit them out fast. For full disclosure, this might not have been what Cade said. The youtube transcript said · “Jordan Peterson, if you don’t know him, he doesn’t know himself. So it’s not a big deal. I mean if you ask him, who are you, he’ll tell you what is who, what is are, what is you …” This may be more truth than poetry. Ever since Jordan Bernt Peterson came out of his near death experience with Benzodiazepines, he gets more and more Bidenesque every day. · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library The social media picture was taken May 22,1955. “Colonial Stores supermarket at Briarcliff and LaVista” · “20 Atheists” were invited to a program titled “1 Christian vs 20 Atheists (ft. Jordan Peterson).” It was rather amusing when Dr. Peterson declined to say that he was, indeed, a Christian. · Jordan Peterson is so incredibly dull like I feel like he uses being boring as a weapon · “Jordan Peterson is so incredibly dull like I feel like he uses being boring as a weapon” @hasanthehun · Russell Lee took the social media picture in March 1939. “Two children of family living on relief near Jefferson, Texas. These children did not attend school because of lack of warm clothes and indifference of mother who was sick with pellagra.” · 00:35 Claim #1 Atheists reject God, but they don’t understand what they’re rejecting 18:30 Claim #2 Morality and purpose can’t be found within science 38:04 Claim #3 Everybody worships something, including atheists, even though they might not know it 59:47 Claim #4 Atheists accept Christian morality, but deny the religion’s foundational stories 01:18:03 Atheist Claim Jordan Peterson’s framework for understanding Christianity is probably not the one the Bible intended us to use · This is a birthday greeting to someone who has been in the hospital for three weeks: Happy Birthday Sir, despite the circumstances. Once, during one of our wars, there was a picture on tv of some Arabic graffiti, on a boarded up window. The news reporters said how horrible it was. Someone who read Arabic translated it as “Happy Birthday Sir, despite the circumstances” Story by John Green. Apologies if “Sir” is not gender appropriate. I would enjoy a non-binary version of Sir and Mam. · George H.W. Bush , 1989 Gridiron Club: “People say I’m indecisive, but I don’t know about that.” Richard Nixon, in Ms. magazine, 1971: “Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I wouldn’t want to wake up next to a lady pipefitter.” · “Luke” is named Cade. Many of your points are valid otherwise. I think many people saw Cade, and didn’t want to see the rest of the show. I have, unfortunately, encountered many of these “arguments” in conversations with Christians. · cadebhanson@gmail.com · I saw your “hook up” with Jordan B Peterson, and I have a few thoughts. This show seems to have inspired 100o reaction videos. It seems like everyone has a Jordan Peterson in their life … and it was so satisfying to see “they” put in “their” place. … Someone should have asked him what his preferred pronouns were, or started their segment by announcing theirs. Passive aggession is tacky, but so much fun. · Here is a post I wrote about this encounter. I am resisting the temptation to write more, and might have to. “The format of this telenova is for JBP to present a “claim”, and the young atheists run to the interview chair to do battle. Claim #1 “Atheists reject God, but they don’t understand what they’re rejecting” (Do Christians understand the God that they are worshiping?) The first fighting atheist is Cade Bradley, aka gayextrad. Cade was studying for the Catholic priesthood, and can sling big words like a pro. … “when we look at the Bible the Bible can’t precisely say anything because there are so many different exegetical and hermeneutic views of this particular book and that everybody has disagreed historically on it seems like even the most benign detail about a book this big and it seems like you can only say that the Bible says something if you first presuppose that it’s univocal.” This was early in the show, before the audience went to sleep.” · I enjoyed your segment. I have been in so many discussions where people sling out the big words like weapons. It was fun to see one of the good guys using this tactic. I also suspect that you had more viewers than many. I find Dr. P difficult to take, and could only listen to so much. I feel as though many people agree. · I have my own story. I was brought up in the Southern Baptist planet, in suburban Atlanta GA. I became unchristian, had temptations to go back, before working closely with an aggressive, hateful, bully for Jesus. This individual was Black, which adds another layer of weirdness to the thing. · I was forced to examine everything I thought I knew, and came to some ideas. I could go into great detail … God is in the details … but it would not make me happy to do so. · One thing is see is the entire concept of belief. Does it really matter whether or not you believe in the existence of Yahweh? I suspect that dependence on belief is peculiar to Yahweh based religions, and that more practice oriented disciplines, like Buddhism, are not like that. This is just what I think, and could be wrong and/or misinformed. · I could go on, but people in the circle are holding up red flags. Thank you for being you, and sharing that with us. · Marjory Collins took the social media picture in February 1943. “New York, New York O’Reilly’s at Third Avenue and Fifty-Fourth Street, on Saturday night” · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library The social media picture was taken July 12, 1955. “First National Bank and Pabst Blue Ribbon signs”. · selah
The Nothing Of Jordan Peterson
“Jordan Peterson, if you don’t know him, he doesn’t know himself. So it’s not a big deal. I mean if you ask him, who are you, he’ll tell you what is who, what is are, what is you …” This may be more truth than poetry. Ever since Jordan Bernt Peterson came out of his near death experience with Benzodiazepines, he gets more and more Bidenesque every day.
I had been avoiding the video where JBP sits down with “20 atheists.” I am beyond tired of JBP, and the semantics of the God issue make me want to puke. That was before I saw this x-crete. I got “sucked into” this matter, and might as well get a blog post out of it.
It takes a bit of digging to find the original post. The title on youtube is Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists. When I posted that link on x, the title is shown as “1 Christian vs 20 Atheists (ft. Jordan Peterson)” Apparently, after this drama became popular, someone went in for damage control.
JBP is a bullshitter. He sort of makes points, but packages them in layers of semantics, sophistry, obfuscation, and just plain noise. Some people are impressed by this. This problem here is that when you live by the gotcha, you die by the gotcha. JBP just became too clever for his own good, and was hoisted on his own petard. To the millions that are bored by his antics, the downfall of JBP is hilarious. Of course, when you wear a pin stripe suit to talk to baseball hats …
The format of this telenova is for JBP to present a “claim”, and the young atheists run to the interview chair to do battle. Claim #1 “Atheists reject God, but they don’t understand what they’re rejecting” The first fighting atheist is Cade Bradley, aka gayextrad. Cade was studying for the Catholic priesthood, and can sling big words like a pro. … “when we look at the Bible the Bible can’t precisely say anything because there are so many different exegetical and hermeneutic views of this particular book and that everybody has disagreed historically on it seems like even the most benign detail about a book this big and it seems like you can only say that the Bible says something if you first presuppose that it’s univocal.” This was early in the show, before the audience went to sleep.
At 48:46, one atheist is “voted out by the majority”, and @dannyphiltalk moves into the hot chair. Danny is going to be the viral sensation. JBP is defending Claim #3 “Everybody worships something, including atheists, even though they might not know it”.
“How do they regard Mary?” … “Why are you asking me that?” … “Because you’re a Christian?” You say that” … “I haven’t claimed that” … “Oh what is this is this Christians versus atheist” … “I don’t know” … “You don’t know where you are right now” … “Don’t be a smartass” … “I mean either you’re a Christian or you’re not” … “You’re a smart ass” … “Either you’re a Christian or you’re not. Which one is it?” … “I could be either of them but I don’t have to tell you you” … “You don’t have to tell me? I was under the impression I was invited to talk to a Christian. Am I not talking to a Christian?” … “No … “I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel. You’re probably in the wrong YouTube video.” … “You’re really quite something you?” … “but you’re really quite nothing”
If you really are hard up for entertainment, you say see the entire shitshow here. If that isn’t enough, chamblee54 has written about JBP several times. 061318 061718 070318 072719 021220 020224 Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library The social media picture was taken May 22,1955. “Colonial Stores supermarket at Briarcliff and LaVista”
Cameo Lounge
Content below was originally published May 21, 2008. … There is a gentleman in Iran who is protesting the Islamic regime by burning Quran. This would not seem to be good for his general health, unless he enjoys getting an aerial view of Tehran from a crane, with a rope around his neck. In Catharsis, Abbas points out that the approved method of disposing of a tattered Quran is to burn it. This brings to mind the controversies stateside about burning the flag. The proper method for disposal of an old flag is to respectfully burn it. …
In these commentaries about Quran, I notice that no one ever says “The Quran”. This is strange to me, because the holy book of our culture is THE Bible. The B-word almost never appears without THE. I am not sure how Arabic works. Do they routinely use devices like THE to specify objects? One thing about use of THE with the Bible. Christians have this notion that this text is THE word of God. This idea … which is rarely challenged by believers … is ridiculous to this reporter. God does not write books … and that applies to ٱلْقُرْآن as well. …
Content below was originally published May 24, 2010. … In 1968, Lenox Square was an open air mall, with a bowling alley and grocery store. There were concrete statues of Uncle Remus characters on display. Two doors were kept locked in the restrooms downstairs, beside Davisons. When the mall first opened, those rooms were “colored men” and “colored women”. … One day, there was a man on the courtyard, with a stack of newspapers. I asked what it was, and the man said it was mostly politics. I gave the man fifteen cents, and got a copy of “The Great Speckled Bird”. …
“The Bird” was 16 pages of tabloid sized newsprint. There were two things in that edition that I remember. There was a story about a man who had been in ‘Nam. He was proud to be the first Marine to piss in the latrine at Da Nang. There was also a crude drawing of a naked woman. An arrow pointed to the vagina, with a caption ”pussy- good for screwing and or babies”. The Bird was not known for subtle sophistication. … In 1968, someone printed a “greatest hits” edition, with the headline ”New Era prints hippie smut sheet”. …
The content below was originally published May 9, 2011. … “thanks to Bukowski’s nearly graphomaniacal fecundity. “I usually write ten or fifteen [poems] at once,” he said, and he imagined the act of writing as a kind of entranced combat with the typewriter, as in his poem “cool black air”: “now I sit down to it and I bang it, I don’t use the light / touch, I bang it.” … the late Charles Bukowski, who was called Hank by those who knew him. Out of the millions of useless drunks feeding the urinals on planet earth, at least one had literary merit. …
… After nine paragraphs, and two poems, there is the phrase that pays … graphomaniacal fecundity . (spell check suggestion:nymphomaniac) As best as we can figure, gf means that Hank wrote a lot of stuff. If you keep your quantity up, the quality will take care of itself. Hank seems to agree, spitting out product “like hot turds the morning after a good beer drunk.” He seemed to take pride in doing what Truman Capote said about Jack Kerouac … he doesn’t write, he types. If you google the phrase graphomaniacal fecundity, you can choose from 71 results. …
… A blogspot facility called poemanias quotes the paragraph from the New Yorker, with the title “On Bukowski’s afterlife”. Fourhourhardon (spell check suggestion: Nonhazardous) reprints the entire thing. Neither provide a link back to the original. Goliath and Petey Luvs Blog take the same copy-paste approach. The first tries to get you to pay for more reading material. … “He was a contemporary of the Beats, but not quite one of them because he was darker and not as willing to smoke a joint and sing Phil Ochs songs on the lower east side. ” The truth is, Hank hated marijuana, and had the classic alcoholic attitude about it. … Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken March 21, 1960. “Cameo Lounge”
Ben Franklin Said What?
There is a meme floating around. “THE U.S. CONSTITUTION DOESN’T GUARANTEE HAPPINESS, ONLY THE PURSUIT OF IT. YOU HAVE TO CATCH UP WITH IT YOURSELF. – BENJAMIN FRANKLIN – PLEASE SHARE Freedom Works”
Luther Mckinnon Do you have a source for that quote? It is not shown in wikiquotes. *Meme Poster* Luther. If you Google: Benjamin Franklin quote “the Constitution doesn’t guarantee hapiness”. You’ll find a bunch of websites devoted to famous quotes. Personally I don’t like Wikipedia. They leave out a lot of information Luther Mckinnon The problem is that many quote websites do not provide a source. Many of the quotes are erroneous. Yes, wikiquotes is not an authoritative source. However, if they do not list the quote, that is an indication that perhaps the quote is not genuine. Luther Mckinnon After I made the post above, I highlighted the phrase “Benjamin Franklin quote “the Constitution doesn’t guarantee hapiness” (BTW, happiness is spelled with two p’s. You need a pp to have happiness.) Anyway, I right clicked, and went to google search. I found this link. The money quote: “The quote is a fake. Benjamin Franklin never said this.”
“The pursuit of happiness” is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. Was the phrase “catch up” used in the eighteenth century? Maybe Mr. Franklin meant mustard.
Ben Franklin was present at both the Continental Congress, and the Constitutional Convention. He signed both documents. The Declaration of Independence was written by Thomas Jefferson. He was the United States Ambssador to France when the Constitutional Convention was held. During this time, Mr. Jefferson was engaged in the pursuit of Sally Hemmings.
Another indication that the meme is phony is the connection to Freedom Works. In the meme comments, even Freedom Watchers seemed to know the difference between the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. … On May 7, 2024, FreedomWorks was dissolved by a unanimous vote of its Board of Directors.
*Meme Poster* Luther Mckinnon, thank you for taking something that was meant to be inspirational and stomping on it. *Meme Poster* unfriended Luther Mckinnon. Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture was taken June 18, 1957. “Shriners Horse Show, visit to Scottish Rite Hospital” This is a repost from 2014.
A Rainbow Colored Prayer
This is a repost from 2009. It was inspired by the National Day of Prayer. In a bit of blessed synchronicity, NDP was May First this year. Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The social media picture is not dated. “Southerland, Tuttle, and Brenan; Loading Zone Peachtree at Houston”.
Good Morning God. Please give me the slack I need to make it through this busy life. I had a birthday recently. I am getting older. Thank you for letting me get this far. Please give me less pain, both above and below the neck. Thank you for the gift of sobriety, and the memory of inebrience. The gift of moderation would have been helpful. Help me to overcome the chemistry that tells me to be unhappy.
Please tell Christians to make less noise, joyful or otherwise. Help me to forgive them. Give Christians a bit more humility. Help “some” Christians to get over their projection issues, and quit hating gay people. Let people know that you do not write books. Let men know that A REAL MAN KEEPS CONTROL OF HIS TEMPER. Please tell the people praying that it is better to listen, than to talk.
Please find a happy medium for Atlanta water. Let us have neither drought nor flood. It would help if the developers would move to North Carolina, and the politicians would grow a conscience. This may be too much for you God … see if Satan can help.
God, Please try to get along better with Allah. This is important. Maybe if you and her got along better, then all those religious crazies would hate each other less. Help white people and black people get along better. Please be good to the people who have already lived, and are now deceased. Please understand that I am not in a hurry to join them. … I have learned that “God”, “Allah”, and “Yahweh” are all names for YHWH. Whatever.
Help Mr. Trump with the mess this country is in. Help Israel get along with her neighbors, and live within her borders. Help the world solve the carbon dioxide problem.
Thank you for the birds that sing. I will listen to them, and not an electronic device. Thank you for dogs, and dog owners who clean up. Thank you for earth, air, fire, and water. Thank you for incomplete lists. Namaste, amen, all my relations, Good Bye.
Ira Hayes
This is a repost from 2010. … The post before this is about Arizona SB1070, a controversial measure dealing with illegal immigration. One of the men quoted is the Sheriff of Pima County, which lies on the border. The sheriff works 115 miles north of the border.
Pima County is named for the Pima Tribe, whose land was in Arizona and Sonora, Mexico. Their name for the “river people” is Akimel O’odham. According to Wikipedia, “The short name, “Pima” is believed to have come from the phrase pi ‘añi mac or pi mac, meaning “I don’t know,” used repeatedly in their initial meeting with Europeans.”
Many of the Mexicans crossing the border are Native Americans. They did not agree to the Gadsden Purchase, or the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. In other words, they were here first, and the white man (and black associates) are the uninvited guests.
The second part of this feature is a repost from 2009. One of the best known Pimas was Ira Hayes. He was one of the Marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima.
One of the enduring images of World War II was raising the flag on Iwo Jima. Three of the six men raising the flag died on the island. A fourth, Ira Hayes, became a casualty after the war.
The story of Ira Hayes is well known, but needs to be told again. A member of the Akimel O’odham (Pima) nation, his people had not been treated well by the conquerors. Nonetheless, when the War against Japan started, men were needed for the struggle, and Ira Hayes joined the Marines.
Iwo Jima was a steppingstone to the main island of Japan. After Iwo Jima and Okinawa were in Yankee hands, preparations could be made for the invasion of the main island. However, the stepping stone islands proved to be incredibly tough to secure. There were more American casualties on Iwo Jima than on D Day.
On the fourth day of the battle, a picture was made of six marines raising the flag on top of Mount Suribachi. A month of sticky, treacherous fighting was ahead for the fighting men. Of 21,000 Japanese soldiers, 20,000 died.
The flag was raised on February 23, 1945. Germany was all but defeated. The “explosive lens” for the atom bomb had been successfully tested. It seemed inevitable that the costly island hopping needed to continue, to be followed by an invasion of the Japanese mainland.
Two of the twelve hands holding the flagpole belonged to Ira Hayes. Ira Hayes did not adjust to peacetime well. He became a drunkard. On January 24, 1955, he passed away.
Thousands of Americans have returned from foreign wars, to be treated poorly. On Memorial Day, we should struggle to ensure that all future veterans are treated with respect, all year long. Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. The picture on facebook was taken June 24, 1949. “Gone with the Wind” tenth anniversary”
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#nationalpoetrymonth 07/30 · Marion Post Wolcott took the facebook picture in August 1941. “FSA borrower and two of his children. Laredo, Montana” · This is the last monday morning reader of March. If you don’t have anything good to say, print a pretty picture. Today’s facebook picture was taken in August 1941. “FSA borrower and two of his children. Laredo, Montana” · @brocade.bsky.social I immediately stopped reading the moment you brought up numerology. I honestly think people like you should be institutionalized. · Jon Ossoff says Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn’t have the guts for Senate run · bluesky’s best labeler shines once again: · The fishwrapper paywall has a treat for you this morning. “Jon Ossoff says Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn’t have the guts for Senate run” Please. Senator Jon would love to have Large Marge as his opponent next year. He knows that Brian Kemp would kick his Ossoff · In the waffle making stage of diva, Be impossible until you hear it boast, Holiday you celebrate with pizza, Spam is the question that teaches us most, What she owes the family catamount, Without pride, let go without removal, Fast cash button from a checking amount, Tempted to look for outside approval · #nationalpoetrymonth 2/30 · “This isn’t the Matrix phone numbers don’t just get sucked into other phones. I don’t know what he’s talking about.” @esaagar.bsky.social @jeffreygoldberg.bsky.social · “the designer quote was sickened by the obscene language amongst the impressionist paintings and a seen when a fair young Adonis massaged the back of George’s shoulders so violently that his gray-haired covered breasts wobbled like jellies. In turn, QO seems to have been equally sickened by beaton’s reputed antisemitism, which seems implied in Beaton’s revulsion at the shortish identifiably Jewish QO receiving the massage from the Adonis and QO certainly rolled his eyes over what he considered to be beaton’s dandy Affectations q Kor admitted in an interview that he straight up didn’t like beaten.” · Arthur S. Siegel took the facebook picture in August 1942. “Interlochen, Michigan National music camp where 300 or more young musicians study symphonic music for eight weeks each summer. Dance jamboree on Monday night” · Cecil Beaton went to one of George Cukor’s fabulous pool parties. Mr. Beaton “was sickened by … a scene when a fair young Adonis massaged the back of George’s shoulders so violently that his gray-haired covered breasts wobbled like jellies.” · 19:35:29 thursday was not a good day for details. i decided to update an old number, which involves a lot of little things to keep up with. god is in the details, or maybe it is satan. anyway, at some time i foolishly decided to google dow jones, and was horrified to see that the stock market was down 1100 points. every five minutes, or whenever i got frustrated with my project and looked at a browser, i refreshed … curious word here … the dj page, and every time it was worse · Use a set of numbers or a time stamp in your creation · the internet is a dream, reaching a billion people , flashy colors jivvy music, greatest medium we will, ever know only problem, today there is no message · Pictures today are from Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library. Lane Brothers photographers took the facebook picture. “Piggly Wiggley and A&P supermarkets, Techwood Drive; #376-384″ · selah
I Used To Be Charming Part Four
What follows is the fourth installment of the chamblee54 deconstruction of I Used to Be Charming, by Eve Babitz. IUTBC is a collection of magazine articles that Miss Babitz wrote. Pictures today are by “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library.” The facebook photograph: “Clown with two children, Atlanta, Georgia, June 11, 1953.” Other features in this cycle are available. one two three five This is a repost.
Sober Virgins of the Eighties (Smart Fall 1988) was published in late 1988, at about the time I quit drinking. IUTBC is in chronological order. The pieces covered today are from Eve’s overboogie recovery days. Many are written for Esquire. “Every product was carefully curated by an Esquire editor. We may earn a commission from these links.” Eve may be counterculture, but by 1990 she was writing for the emperors tailor.
By 1988, aids was hitting like a ton of bricks. While some still partied, many started to clean up their act. SVOTE is about this. “Of course, now that it’s the eighties, most desirable members of the opposite sex give rise to dark wanderings like “If they’re so cute, why aren’t they dead?”—which for me really put a damper on sex and made me actually take up chastity for almost two years. … The great thing about the eighties is that if you’re still alive, there’s hope. That, anyway, has changed.”
SVOTE was in the first edition of Smart, in the “Love and Science” column. “One smart reader is worth a thousand boneheads” HL Mencken “Terry McDonell, the now legendary magazine editor, was starting his own magazine, Smart, in 1989. When he said he wanted to evoke The Smart Set, the stylish, literary monthly edited by H. L. Mencken and George Jean Nathan in the Roaring Twenties, I thought of Lucian Bernhard’s Bauer typeface from 1929, Lucian. That resulted in another early Font Bureau digitzation of a vintage foundry type, Belucian. At that point David Berlow was thinking of a adding a “Be-” to the names of all his revivals (cf. Belizio), but we talked him out of that later.”
Ronstadt For President (Smart May-June 1989) returns to Eve’s friendship with Linda Ronstadt. Eve is sometimes credited with designing the album ocver for “Heart Like a Wheel.” Other sources say that Eve was the photographer on the inner sleeve. Very little is said about Eve as a photographer. Mostly, artist Eve paints, and assembles collages.
RFP is about Linda’s struggles to make it as a singer. Her looks got in the way. “… men like Hugh Hefner would be propositioning her with “Let’s just shoot you with no clothes on, why don’t we?” and casting directors were trying to interest her in movies. “That’s not what I am, Eve,” she said, laughing and laughing. “Me with no clothes, imagine!” …
“I mean, Linda is just your normal good-time overeater type of person, whereas Jane Fonda, as she mentions in her book, was a bulimic—one of those sneaky people who eat and eat and then throw up. And bulimia is not what I want in a politician at all. I want things to stay down. And I want Linda to sing a slow, sexy double-entendre version of “You’re Just Too Marvelous” to Gorbachev.”
Rapture of the Shallows (Smart July-August 1989) was about Walter Hopps. He created an art gallery called Ferus, despite the NY notion that LA was a wasteland for art. Mr. Hopps was also Eve’s extramarital bf, and the motivation for the chess photograph with Marcel Duchamp.
“Ephemera mattered at Ferus. Founded by curator Walter Hopps and artist Ed Kienholz in March 1957, the “Ferus” honorific was designed to commemorate an unknown artist named James Farris who shot himself; the peculiar variant spelling of the gallery’s name got transposed, however, when Robert Alexander (a.k.a. “Baza”), the collage artist and poet who executed the gallery’s earliest typography, proposed “F-e-r-u-s” instead. Why? “Because it has more strength typographically,” Hopps remembers. Hopps’ response? “Let’s do it.” And thus, the gallery’s founding identity was composed with an ephemeral sensibility and by a typographic twist of fate.”
Eve: “I’m going to write a piece about John Goode and maybe Ed Ruscha and Laddie Dill and …” I told my friend Aaron, a New York collector who lives here but hates it. “Those phony-baloney bulshit artists … they all suck. They’re just for restaurant openings, tea at Trumps.”
In the Bret-Lili podcast, Trumps came up. It seems to have been quite the trendy place. In The Shards, Bret meets at Trumps with this semi-closeted producer, (and father of Bret’s gf.) He pretends to be interested in Bret’s script, but is really after Bret. If you like, you can buy a matchbook, and a small plate, from Trumps.
The Sexual Politics of Fashion (The Washington Post Book World July 30, 1989) is about books, (one two) that people wrote about fashion. Eve was not impressed with either. “But the Luscious photographs and illustrations are given a continuous cold shower by the prose: Every time you get a romance or fantasy going in your head … you are smacked into rectitude by phrases like “gender-specific” or just the very word “gender” itself which is enough to keep me from wanting to hear more, no matter how cute the people in the pictures are.” Eve had an eye, however badly focused, on the future. In 1989, gender meant boy and girl. Today, gender is the new civils rights movement, more third-railish than even race or football.
Gotta Dance (Playboy October 1989) was written for Playboy magazine. It’s mind blowing to think of Eve working in concert with Hugh Hefner. Apparently, when sex/drugs/rock/roll not longer did it, Eve started to dance.
“My only recommendation to a man who is even remotely thinking about ballroom dancing is to be careful. Unless you have a very large trust fund or a very strong character, don’t begin at Arthur Murray. Once they hook you, they have you for life. … “Me?” you say. “Hooked? On ballroom dancing? Come on!” … “I know. The only reason you’d take ballroom dancing at all would be as a joke. So that’s why I’m telling you: Don’t. Like a newborn duck, you’ll get imprinted on your teacher and your classmates, and then they’ll sign you up for lifetime lessons. Later, when you ask around, you’ll discover that you could get the same lessons for less from someone who used to teach at Arthur Murray and now gives lessons himself.”
I got a email before writing this. A young lady we knew, back in the day, passed away. For purposes of this story, we are going to call her Aspen. She drank the kool aid, and signed a mega-bucks contract with Fred Astaire dance studio. One time Aspen got me to go to a party, with “champagne ladies” trying to sell you dance lessons. I declined the kool aid.
The Soup Can as Big as the Ritz (Movieline November 1989) is about Andy Warhol. Walter Hopps brought the soup can paintings to California in 1962. Andy made it to the infamous Duchamp opening in 1963, which promted the photo of a naked Eve playing chess with Mr. Duchamp.
Walter Hopps: “… we may have also seen, in Warhol’s studio, work in progress that included one of his first Campbell’s Soup cans. … I said to Warhol, ‘Absolutely, I want to take some of this work for a show in Los Angeles.’ Warhol, who had never been to California, answered with some excitement, ‘Oh, that’s where Hollywood is!’ In the sea of magazines and fanzines scattered on the floor, so deep it was hard to walk around, were all those Photoplay and old-fashioned glamour magazines out of the Hollywood publicity mill. So a show in L.A. sounded great to Warhol. He agreed, and thus the multiple-image soup can show came to Ferus in 1962. Warhol missed that first exhibition of his Pop images, but he finally made it to California in September 1963 for the opening of the Marcel Duchamp retrospective at the Pasadena Art Museum and his own second Ferus show.”
Andy Warhol: “Marcel Duchamp was having a retrospective at the Pasadena Museum and we were invited to that opening … They served pink champagne at the party, which tasted so good that I made the mistake of drinking a lot of it, and on the way home we had to pull over to the side of the road so I could throw up on the flora and fauna. In California, in the cool night air, you even felt healthy when you puked – it was so different from New York.”
Eve gets talking about Edie Sedgwick here. “The next time I saw Edie she was sitting at the bar at Max’s Kansas City with Bob Neuwirth, the famous hippest coolest art type guy of his generation, and again she was crying this time into a gin and tonic. … Suddenly my ambition was to look gorgeous and miserable, but I’m always so thrilled to be anything and do anything in those days. … If you weren’t on speed you weren’t in New York City in the sixties. I was certainly on it. In fact, if you took the speed out of New York in the sixties, it would have been Des Moines. …”
“The world’s most fabulous people were dancing everywhere, and on stage was Nico, the girl lead singer of the Velvets looking down at the audience with eyes that’s all nothing but apolcalyptic collapse and the voice that did nothing but omit a bagpipe like drone.”
“On October 23, 1967, in New York, singer Nico sang with The Velvet Underground. … Nico’s delivery of her material was very flat, deadpan, and expressionless, and she played as though all of her songs were dirges. She seemed as though she was trying to resurrect the ennui and decadence of Weimar, pre-Hitler Germany. Her icy, Nordic image also added to the detachment of her delivery. … In between sets, Frank Zappa got up from his seat and walked up on the stage and sat behind the keyboard of Nico’s B-3 organ. He proceeded to place his hands indiscriminately on the keyboard in a total, atonal fashion and screamed at the top of his lungs, doing a caricature of Nico’s set, the one he had just seen. The words to his impromptu song were the names of vegetables like broccolli, cabbage, asparagus… This “song” kept going for about a minute or so and then suddenly stopped. He walked off the stage and the show moved on.”
Blame it on the VCRs (Smart June 1990) “In the meantime, the gay men and the feminists were in the background, girding their loins against the Farrah Fawcett spun-gold hair of the seventies, trying to ruin everything. And they succeeded. Yes, men were pigs, women were exploited—yet gay men were, well, out of the closet and staying out and up till three in the morning, having more fun than anyone else ever did in the history of mankind. They made straight people jealous.”
Jim Morrison is Dead and Living in Hollywood (Esquire March 1991) Part of the Eve Legend was that she was Jim Morrison’s girlfriend for a while. Nobody is sure how much of that is real. Eve doesn’t really seem to be too terribly impressed with Mr Morrison, who she calls the Bing Crosby from hell. Jimbo was basically a fat drunken asshole. Pamela, the heroin Juliet to Jimbo’s whiskey Romeo, does not seem to be a very nice person.
No matter how chummy Eve was to Jimbo, she did not design any of the Door’s album covers. Eve did do the cover for the Elektra reissue, The Best of Lord Buckley, who may have been the strangest neo-celebrity that ever lived.
I was a Naked Pawn for Art (Esquire September 1991) returns to the infamous picture of naked Eve playing chess with Henri-Robert-Marcel Duchamp. “The trouble was, I had been taking birth control pills for the first and only time in my life, and not only had I puffed up like a blimp but my breasts had swollen to look like two pink footballs. Plus they hurt. On the other hand it would be a great contrast — this large too-LA surfer girl with an extremely tiny old man in a French suit. Playing chess.”
On page 243, there is a typo. This is something that you see in hard copy. I treasure the moments when I catch a typo. and there he was it was just that they were changing suddenly the had eyes to see.
Life at Chateau Marmont (Esquire January 1992) Then she has a story about Chateau Marmont. of which many stories could be told and hopefully they spray Down the Walls of that hotel and they were doing a renovation of it. “In L.A., the impulse to tear down anything good but old and rebuild it crummy and different is so rampant that the only things anyone tries to restore are women’s faces.”
They Might be Giants Esquire May 1992 (Esquire May 1992) features a photo shoot of four hot, photogenic young actors. Thirty years later, none is a superstar. Being called the next James Dean is somewhat of a curse.
“James Dean was rock and roll before anyone knew it wasn’t a fad, and he was rock and roll before it was Disneyized and turned into role-model material. He was the role model for people who hated role models, and what we still want is more James Dean’s and no one will ever be James Dean enough.”
The trouble with James Byron Dean was that he lived the image, and it f****** killed him. When I was a kid, the one person that “they” held up as a bad example was Joe Namath. When you’re a kid growing up in Georgia, you need bad examples. Today, Broadway Joe is on cable tv, on commercials for medicare insurance. The kids he was a bad example to are buying medicare insurance.
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