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Kelly Gissendaner And The German Soldier

Posted in GSU photo archive, Politics, Religion, The Death Penalty by chamblee54 on March 2, 2015

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Question four of How Many IQ Questions Can You Answer Correctly? is tricky. “The word, “slackers,” is spelled by using the first letters of the words in the following sentence: “Silent large anteaters calmly kiss each roasted snack.” True or False?
The fun lies in the advertising. The ad on top says “Penelope is taking charge of her overactive bladder (OAB) symptoms.” The answer is a product called Myrbetriq.
The *bottom* ad promotes the cause of former Atlanta Fire Chief Kelvin Cochran. “I hope you agree with me that it is completely unacceptable for Mayor Reed to censor Christianity. And it is even worse that he is putting his liberal ideology before the lives of Atlanta residents. The mayor cannot make safety decision — such as who is qualified to fight fires — based on radical, personal beliefs.”
Opinons about Jesus have long been used as to influence current events. Today sees a renewed offensive by the “faith community” to spare the life of Kelly Gissendaner. Apparently she has found G-d in prison. Some seem to think Mrs. Gissendaner is entitled to special privileges as a result.
@awhiskypalian Finished up at the Gov’s office. The office is hanging up on some callers. Some lines are shut down. SO KEEP CALLING. #kellyonmymind
@chamblee54 @awhiskypalian ga. gov. does not have ability to grant clemency
‏@awhiskypalian @chamblee54 I know. Doesn’t mean we don’t need to make him feel it. Ours is the power of conviction and persuasion.
There are many reasons to call off this execution. Mrs. Glissendaner is being poisoned as much for her refusal to snitch on her boyfriend, as for the actual murder. Mrs. Glissendaner did not commit the murder, and the states case was based largely on the snitch testimony of her boyfriend. The state will be using mystery drugs, from a secret source, to poison Mrs. Glissendaner. The entire affair makes a mockery of justice.
Mrs. Glissendaner’s opinions about Jesus should not be a factor. This is the same religion that defends a former fire chief who likes to preach hatred on the clock. This is the same religion that verbally abuses those who disagree with their beliefs. This is the same religion which worships a victim of capital punishment. As @awhiskypalian notes, this religion likes to stir up a fuss, even when there is no hope of having a positive impact.
The New York Times published a piece over the weekend, A Death Row Inmate Finds Common Ground With Theologians. It seems as though Mrs. Glissendaner has been taking theology classes in prison. As a result, she has had a correspondence with “a theologian, Jürgen Moltmann, whose books on hope, suffering and liberation have helped define postwar Protestant thought.” Mr. Moltmann fought for Germany in World War II, and was a POW after the war.
“They (Mr. Moltmann and Mrs. Glissendaner) discuss “theological and faith questions. And I have found her very sensitive, and not a monster, as the newspapers depicted her. And very intelligent.” She has been rehabilitated, he said. “She has changed her mind, and her life.”
“Professor Moltmann, who has written of his own remorse at having fought in the German Army, offered his own idea of what awaits his friend. “If the State of Georgia has no mercy,” he said, “she has received already the mercy of Heaven.”
Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.

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Wolf

Posted in Georgia History, GSU photo archive, History by chamblee54 on February 27, 2015

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Wolf was a familiar sight for many years. The rough looking man with long blond hair could be seen selling “art” magazines on North Highland Avenue, between Plaza Pharmacy and Druid Hills Baptist Church. Before that, he sold The Great Speckled Bird. As might be expected for a man born in 1942, his health had been letting him down. On tuesday, February 24, at Grady Hospital, Wilton Hugh “Wolf” Thomas died. “He had become ill with double pneumonia…”

PG never talked to Wolf, but stood next to him at a urinal once. Wolf was seen at a Rainbow family picnic in Freedom Park, and on the streets constantly. The Storycorps recorded his tale. (It would be great for someone to incorporate the segments into one file.) Aside from the adrag sales, Wolf was a guitar player, a friend of the homeless, and longtime member of Gentle Spirit Christian Church. He was one of the people who lend character to Atlanta, as it becomes more mainstream. The Piedmont Pig, and Bobby Brookhaven, have not been seen in years.

As Wolf was being mourned, another Atlanta facility announced major changes. The land around Manuel’s Tavern has been sold, and a retail/residential clusterfuck is planned for the acreage. The Tavern itself will be a free standing building, albeit after closing for major renovations. Who knows how this will wind up. Developers are tough to trust.

A blond Canadian once sang about tearing up paradise, and putting up a parking lot. In this case, it is a bit different. Manuel’s has a huge parking lot, which caught the heart of the location location location crowd. Maybe the new version will be that the tore down the parking lot, and built a purgatory palace. That will be tough to fit into a song.

North Highland Avenue, even with the help of the nearby Ex Pres Way, is a traffic nightmare. With the multi use contraption going up in Manuel’s parking lot, it is only going to get worse. Maybe that is the soul of Atlanta… burning C02 happy fossil fuel, while waiting for the light to change. Pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.

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Organization Management

Posted in GSU photo archive, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on February 26, 2015

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Never submit passwords through Google Forms. ~ @KimKierkegaard Use one tenth of the power which is granted to you, use it to the utmost. Be the hottest mom in the entire world. ~ Piper . I see what you mean… Alice `s report is neat, last saturday I bought a new Citroën 2CV sincee geting a check for $6322 this – 4 weeks past and also ten grand this past munth . it’s certainly the easiest-job I have ever done . I actually started 10-months ago and almost immediately began to bring home at least $84 p/h . ~ I saw this a few weeks ago. It was “liked” by someone who died a month earlier. ~ People need to quit killing people over parking spaces. ~ Future home of something quite cool. If you’re the site owner, log in to launch this site If you are a visitor, check back soon. ~ Is NAACP changing to NAAPOC? ~ The acronym IANAL has never been more appropriate. ~ If you were to replace the colon with a comma, that would have a totally different meaning. ~ By commenting, you agree to our terms of service and to abide by our commenting policy. ~ @pourmecoffee Kanye is evolving into Andy Kauffman. ~ Is Organization Management an oxymoron? ~ What about the citizens who believed them? ~ Faith is a five letter word, with i at the center. ~ There is no justification for using unmanned aircraft to kill women and children. Are we really any more civilized? ~You know I’ve noticed a certain anti-intellectualism going around this country ever since around 1980, coincidentally enough. I was in Nashville, Tennessee last weekend and after the show I went to a Waffle House, and I’m sitting there and I’m eating and reading a book. I don’t know anybody, I’m alone, I’m eating and I’m reading a book. This waitress comes over to me (mocks chewing gum) “What you readin’ for?” Wow, I’ve never been asked that; not “What am I reading,” “What am I reading for?” Well, goddammit, you stumped me. I guess I read for a lot of reasons — the main one is so I don’t end up being a fuckin’ waffle waitress. Yeah, that would be pretty high on the list. Then this trucker in the booth next to me gets up, stands over me and says [mocks Southern drawl] “Well, looks like we got ourselves a readah.” What the fuck’s going on? It’s like I walked into a Klan rally in a Boy George costume or something. Am I stepping out of some intellectual closet here? I read, there I said it. I feel better. ~ All photos are used strictly for educational, parody purposes, and fall under copyright law’s fair usage terms. Any questions or issues, please contact the webmaster.~ If someone is giving a shit away, who wants to receive? ~ It is now the 8th most dangerous neighborhood in america. ~ “trigger/content warning” when a transcript appeared in the campus newspaper: “Racism/racial slurs, ableist slurs, antisemitic language, anti-Muslim/Islamophobic language, anti-immigrant language, sexist/misogynistic slurs, references to race-based violence, references to antisemitic violence.” ~ No hats no sunglasses and please don’t send in photos taken in the bathroom with the tub and toilet in the background. ~ “hear how Indigenous People feel about white appropriation.” That should read how SOME indigenous people feel about non native appropriation. ~ @NotFunnyJ If you plan on being overtly cruel to a waiter or waitress just remember that “employees must wash hands” is a loosely enforced law. ~ ‏@PeterRollins Twitter tip: Avoid the taxing need to critically engage with others by simply attributing insidious motives to those who disagree with us ~ ‏@postcrunk just because we disagree doesn’t mean we should hate each other ~ U got serious issues and dont belong amoung faeries…ur a bully based on indignant rightousness…like a mormon or cult member. Blocking u. ~ @jmshiveley Jesus: This is my body *breaks bread* Jesus: This is my blood **pours wine** Jesus: This is YOUR last supper **locks doors** *pumps shotgun* ~ Alladin is now Alladis. ~ Is there a community for people who like to use big words? ~ cannabloism typo of the day ~ Can it walk and chew gum at the same time? ~ “self-obsessed meeting the arse-obsessed” which one is which? ~ I read a long, long biography about Lenny Bruce. He was not a very nice man. I don’t know if he was a candidate for sainthood. The busts were as much a matter of angering important people socially as about the use of obscenity. In the end, the drug use reduced him to being a pathetic character. I am not sure what his motives were, but I suspect it was not “so we could communicate.” ~ Maybe the anti racists can feel some solidarity with those who do not meet their standards ~ *sprinkles salt on unsuspecting slug* ~ pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. ~ selah

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No Clemency For Kelly Gissendaner

Posted in GSU photo archive, Politics, The Death Penalty by chamblee54 on February 25, 2015

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Reports are coming in that the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles has rejected a plea for clemency by Kelly Gissendaner. The plan is to inject the mystery drugs at 7:00pm tonight. There is usually some last minute legal wrangling, and the actual execution will probably be much later tonight. Georgia is in snowjam anticipation, and the procedure may be postponed.
Mrs. Gissendaner has requested her last meal. “two Burger King Whoppers with cheese, two large orders of fries, popcorn, cornbread, a side of buttermilk and a salad with tomatoes, bell peppers, onions, carrots, cheese, boiled eggs and Paul Newman buttermilk dressing.”
The Gwinnett Daily Post tells the story of Kelly Renee Brookshire Gissendaner. Starting at ten years old, she was molested by a stepfather, neighbor’s stepfather, and uncle. Her first son was born two weeks after high school graduation. The first marriage, at nineteen, lasted six months.
Marriages two and three were to Doug Gissendaner. They had a baby, and divorced. After a divorce, Mrs. Gissendaner had another son. That babydaddy died of cancer.
There are indications that Mrs. Gissendaner is being executed because she did not snitch. “Owens received a sentence of life in prison and is eligible for parole. And while Gissendaner’s attorneys argued about the disparity, the man who prosecuted Gissendaner doesn’t buy it. “The offer was made to both of them,” says Gwinnett District Attorney Danny Porter. “The offer was made and Kelly Gissendaner decided to take her chances and go to trial. It’s kind of hard to argue how unfair it is, when you’ve kind of thumped your nose at the offer that would have gotten you the same sentence.” … Porter, who argued against clemency, says the sentence was fair and she got what she deserves.”
At the clemency hearing, a statement from Mrs. Gissendaner was read. “”There are no excuses for what I did, I will never understand how I let myself fall into such evil.”
“In the 53-page clemency application, daughter Kayla (the daughter of Doug Glissendaner) wrote: “The impact of losing my mother would be devastating. I can’t fathom losing another parent.” … Her supporters said she’s found God. “In the study of theology, [Kelly] has found a venue for reflecting on her own experiences, mistakes, relationships, dreams and faith, ” wrote Rev. Cathy Zappa.”
Picutures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. A detailed story, Kelly And Doug Gissendaner, is available at Chamblee 54. UPDATE: The execution has been postponed until Monday, March 2, at 7:00 pm.

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Positive Fascism

Posted in GSU photo archive, Politics, Quotes, Religion, The Internet, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on February 23, 2015

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PG had a few minutes to spare this morning. He dived into the innertubes, and found Staying committed sucks…REALLY??? The post made him think. He decided to leave a fast comment. If you want your comment to be noticed, be one of the first ones to go up.

The post is about the downside of positive thinking. It starts with a woman, who says her husband has discovered, a bit too late, that he really does not enjoy practicing law. The hypothesis here is that Hollywood glamorizes the legal profession, and does not tell anyone about the boring aspects.

Chamblee54 I would say more, and perhaps will later. Now, I have to get on the road to my job.The problem of what I call “positive fascism” is not exclusive to Hollywood. Many people like to glorify the positive, and deny that anything non wonderful exists. Jesus worshipers are some of the worst. The trouble is, when the going gets dull, many people think it is a sign of weakness. If their role model does this without boredom, it must be something wrong with me. This is a problem.

Biochicklet Snarky man under the bag. I was raised without a religion and I know legions of atheists. Singling out a religious group is really unfair. The topic is commitment and hard work to have something of great value. If you want to pick a fight, please come see me. I am a positive fascist.

The Culture Monk Ellen, LOVE the comment. I think its my favorite of week.

There are a couple of obvious points. The gravatar image of PG has a paper bag over his head. There is no indication whether the blogger is male or female. How did Biochicklet correctly guess the gender?

Second, Culture Monk talks about his Christianity in almost every post. A frequent theme is Christians who make Jesus look bad. It was highly fair to include that observation in this comment.

PG is writing this after a hard day in the real world. A couple of things happened today to cloud any cheerfulness he might feel … those who know PG IRL will know what these are. A lengthy discussion of positive fascism, and the belief paradigm that spawned it, will have to wait. (Or is it positive fascism that facilitated the belief paradigm? Maybe they are one and the same.)

There is a story, though, which illustrates the point, and will not take too long to tell. A friend of PG became acquainted with some people in a Christian group once. We will call this group “The Light.” They were faith healers, with a nifty catch 22. If you were cured of your illness, hallelujah. (Thank you spell check.) If you were not cured, it was because you did not believe enough.

This is a repost. Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. The video is from “The Way,” which worships the same G-d as “The Light,” and participates in the same economy. Biochicklet, Chamblee54, and Culture Monk are still producing.

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Was Mohandas Gandhi A Racist?

Posted in GSU photo archive, Politics, Quotes, Race by chamblee54 on February 21, 2015

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A meme appeared on facebook, “GHANDI’S 7 DANGERS TO HUMAN VIRTUE.” Below the misspelled name were seven concepts, written in all caps. This got PG thinking.

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (M.K. Gandhi) “was born was born on October 2, 1869, at Porbandar, a small town on the western coast of India.” At some point the title Mahatma was applied, and is often used as though it was his name. Exact transliterations between languages using different alphabets is tricky. What is the “correct” spelling of this man’s last name? Most sources today use Gandhi.

Another term, Gandhiji, turns up in the research. “‘Ji’ in Hindi or Urdu is a suffix used after the names of respectable persons and elders like father and mother. It is used every day by millions of Indians to address their elders.Hence Gandhiji is but Mahatma Gandhi,father of our nation,addressed reverently and respectfully. We call mother mataji. Mata means mother.”

The quote in the meme is real. It is found on page 135 of Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi Vol. 33. It was in an article found in Young India on October 22, 1925.

“SEVEN SOCIAL SIN The same fair friend wants readers of Young India to know, if they do not already, the following seven social sins: Politics without principles, Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Knowledge without character, Commerce without morality, Science without humanity, Worship without sacrifice. Naturally, the friend does not want the readers to know these things merely through the intellect but to know them through the heart so as to avoid them.”

The next entry in the collected works is interesting. “79. THAT ETERNAL QUESTION However much I may wish to avoid it, the Hindu-Muslim question will not avoid me. Muslim friends insist upon my intervention to solve it. The Hindu friends would have me discuss it with them and some of them say I have sown the wind and must reap the whirlwind.”

The meme had comments. Lloyd Lachow Gandhi was intensely racist. Joanne Gibson Gandhi was not intensely racist. Fighting racism was his first cause. John Janiga Gandhi racist??? John Taylor Lloyd, were you born an idiot, or did you have to work at it?

This looks like a job for Mr. Google. When you type the phrase “Is Gandhi,” suggested searches include “sill alive” and “on netflix.” This does not help if you want to know if someone is racist.

Mr. Gandhi lived in South Africa from 1893-1915. During this time he was offended at the treatment of Indian nationals, which led to a decision to fight for Indian rights. Unfortunately, these rights were not to be extended to the native South Africans.

gandhi misspelled240 … there’s no doubting that Gandhi had little time for black people. During his 21 years in South Africa, he repeatedly expressed contempt for the native population, claiming they were no better than the “untouchables” of Indian society. One speech in particular stands out. In 1896, he was quoted as referring to black South Africans as the “raw kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness.” For those of you who aren’t up on your South African slang, “kaffir” is a direct equivalent of our N-word. Another time, he complained about finding himself in a “kaffir” prison, claiming Indians were “above” natives, who “are troublesome, very dirty and live like animals.”

There is the story of the Durban Post Office. “The first major accomplishment of the Natal Indian Congress was to further entrench racial segregation into South African society during a time of massive racial strife. At the time, the Durban, South Africa post office had two doors. One was for whites and the other for Indians and black natives. Gandhi was so disgusted at having to share a door with blacks that he initiated a campaign for the creation of a third door. … A year later, after the issue had already been resolved, Gandhi chose to expound upon his reasons for raising it in the first place. In his August 14, 1896 letter, “The Grievances of the British Indians in South Africa: An Appeal to the Indian Public,” he called being “put on the same level with the native” a “disability.”

Pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.

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Home Churched

Posted in GSU photo archive, Religion by chamblee54 on February 18, 2015

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A poem appeared at Chamblee54 yesterday. The pictures were from a photo mural on North Avenue. There were two people in each shot, with a white bar in the middle. The text was adjusted, so that the white bar was a compliment, rather than a distraction. The result was G-d Doesnot Write Books.

There are 20 words used: my thoughts are my business ~ practice outweigh beliefs ~ g-d doesnot write books ~ thought about jesus doesnot ~ affect life after death.

The text comes from a post, at a blog called 22 Words. At the time, comments at 22 words were limited to 22 words. That is no longer the case. Here is the story.

Abraham at twentytwowords wrote… “When I asked about churches last week, some of you reminded me you’re not Christian.So…Non-Christian readers, what (non)religion are you?” That is 23 words.

PG answered the original post “home churched”. He decided to answer the follow up question. Unlike most of the others to answer, PG wanted to keep this under 22 words. … PG decided that this label thing was not going to work. Labels belong on jars, and PG’s hair is a half inch over jarhead level. The best solution was to write a list of beliefs.

1. My beliefs are my business. 2. Practice outweighs belief. 3. G-d probably exists. 4. G-d does not write books. 5. Jesus has nothing to do with Life after death. This is 25 words. Three words need to go. Line 4 states that G-d does not write books. This implies that G-d does, indeed, exist. Line 3 can be eliminated, and the answer reduced to 22 words.

America is a religious country. To many, this means Christianity. This religion is based on beliefs, rather than practices. The beliefs of Christianity tend to fall into four categories: G-d, the Bible, Jesus, and life after death. There is a lot of disagreement.

There was a comment. Christ Centered Teaching February 17, 2015 at 7:33 pm “So if your thoughts are your business, why share them here with others?”

Religious themes have been used for content in Western art for centuries. Painting, music, and architecture have been devoted to images of Jesus. How many of these image makers are true believers? This is especially true in team sports like music and architecture. Is the bricklayer at the Cathedral saved? Is the gospel music keyboards man born again?

PG has used the bible as text on several occasions. He also uses public domain works by others, including Walt Whitman, William Blake, and Emily Dickinson. Just because you use a text in a graphic work does not mean that you are expressing a belief in the content.

When you take a book of poetry, and use it as a tool of authority, you compromise the beauty of that work. Maybe, by using the poetry of the Bible as text for graphic poems, some of this beauty can be restored. The Jesus worshipers can still use the magic book as a sales tool to promote their scheme for life after death. The text has been abused for centuries.

Pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.

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Kelly And Doug Gissendaner

Posted in Georgia History, GSU photo archive, Race, The Death Penalty by chamblee54 on February 17, 2015

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Kelly Renee Brookshire Gissendaner is supposed to die on February 25. She is accused of planning the murder of her husband, Douglas Morgan Gissendaner. The killing was done by Gregory Bruce Owen. The Attorney General of Georgia issued a press advisory, with a description of the crime.
“The facts of the case, as presented at trial, show that Gissendaner married Douglas Gissendaner in September of 1989. Douglas joined the Army in January 1990, their child was born in March 1990, and Douglas was transferred to Germany in September 1990. Gissendaner and Douglas separated in December 1991, after Douglas had served in Desert Storm and then left the Army. Gissendaner joined the Army in March 1992, and Douglas joined Gissendaner and the children in Virginia in October 1992, but he left six weeks later. Gissendaner and Douglas divorced in March 1993.
Gissendaner and Douglas started seeing each other again in February 1995, remarried in May 1995, and separated in September 1995. Douglas again filed for divorce, but he later dropped the suit, as he and Gissendaner started dating again in May 1996. The couple moved to Auburn, Ga., in December 1996 and purchased a home together.
However, Gissendaner had met co-defendant Gregory Owen in September of 1995. Gissendaner and co-defendant Owen broke up in April 1996 and did not see each other again until October 1996, when Gissendaner called co-defendant Owen’s sister, Belinda Leicht, purportedly to tell Belinda about a job. However, Gissendaner also asked for co-defendant Owen’s pager number. At this time, Gissendaner told a co-worker that she was not happy with Douglas and was in love with Owen.
On Nov. 8, 1996, Pamela Kogut, a friend of Gissendaner’s, drove Gissendaner to a hotel in Winder, Ga., where Gissendaner spent the night with co-defendant Owen. In December, when co-defendant Owen’s sister asked Gissendaner what her intentions were with her brother, Gissendaner replied that she was only staying with Douglas to use his credit and money to purchase a house and then she would get rid of him. However, Gissendaner was telling others and giving all outward appearances that her marriage had taken a turn for the better.
Gissendaner first brought up the idea of killing Douglas to co-defendant Owen in November of 1996, when she asked co-defendant Owen how to get rid of Douglas. When co-defendant Owen suggested that she divorce Douglas, Gissendaner stated that divorce would not work because Douglas would not leave her alone if she simply divorced him. Gissendaner and co-defendant Owen discussed killing Douglas on four or five occasions, all at Gissendaner’s initiation, before reaching a final agreement to kill him. It was agreed that, on Feb. 7, 1997, while Gissendaner was out with friends, co-defendant Owen would kill Douglas. The murder went exactly as Gissendaner planned.
On Feb. 7, 1997, Gissendaner picked co-defendant Owen up at his home and drove him to her house at approximately 5:30 p.m. or 6:00 p.m. Gissendaner changed clothing, gave co-defendant Owen a night stick and a six to eight inch hunting knife and left. Gissendaner spent the evening with Pamela Kogut, Kerri Otis, and Nicole Bennett, eventually going dancing at “The Shack” at 10:30 p.m. Ms. Otis had attempted to reschedule the evening, but Gissendaner insisted that they had to go out that night. The group left at 11:30 p.m. when Gissendaner stated that she had a bad feeling and had to go home.
In the meantime, Douglas had spent the evening at the home of Tom and Kathy Nesbit, friends of the family from church. Douglas worked on cars with Tom from 6:00 to 10:00 p.m. When Douglas left, he stated he was going straight home. Douglas arrived home at approximately 11:30 p.m. Co-defendant Owen was waiting for him inside the house. As Douglas was closing the door, co-defendant Owen walked up behind him, put a knife to his neck, and told him that he needed to go for a ride. The two got into Douglas’ car, and co-defendant Owen, with the knife in his lap, made Douglas drive in the direction of Luke Edwards Road in Gwinnett County, Ga.
When they arrived at a desolate area on Luke Edwards Road, co-defendant Owen made Douglas get out of the car, walk toward the woods, and get down on his knees. As Gissendaner had instructed co-defendant Owen, co-defendant Owen took Douglas’ watch and wedding band to make it appear like robbery was the motive for the murder. When Douglas was on his knees, co-defendant Owen hit him in the back of the head with the night stick. Douglas fell forward and was silent. Co-defendant Owen then stabbed Douglas in the neck eight to ten times.
Gissendaner had arrived at the prearranged scene of the murder as co-defendant Owen was stabbing Douglas but remained in her car. When co-defendant Owen approached Gissendaner’s car after the stabbing, Gissendaner asked if Douglas was dead. Although co-defendant Owen replied that he thought he was dead, Gissendaner went to check on the body anyway. After Gissendaner walked back from the direction of Douglas’ body, she got into her car and co-defendant Owen got into Douglas’ car. Co-defendant Owen followed Gissendaner about three-fourths to a mile up the road. As Gissendaner continued to the end of the road in her car, co-defendant Owen stopped his car and picked up a can of kerosene that Gissendaner had left for him earlier, doused Douglas’ car with the kerosene and set it on fire. Co-defendant Owen then walked up to the end of the road, where Gissendaner picked him up and drove him home.
After Gissendaner dropped off co-defendant Owen, co-defendant Owen put his clothes, the knife, the stick, and Douglas’ jewelry into a garbage bag and disposed of them one to two nights later.
Between 7:00 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. on the morning of the murder, Gissendaner phoned Douglas’ parents, the Nesbits, and Pamela Kogut, purportedly looking for Douglas. All testified that Gissendaner sounded strangely calm and unemotional. Gissendaner told people that she had come home at approximately midnight, mistakenly taken a sleeping pill rather than a pain pill and gone to sleep. Family, friends and the police were soon searching for signs of Douglas. The Department of Natural Resources found Douglas’ burned car on Sunday morning, but could not find Douglas’ body. Gissendaner acted surprised for about 15 minutes, and then did not seem to be distraught at all. When Gissendaner went to the scene of the burned car, she showed no emotion.
Gissendaner appeared on television news asking for information on Douglas’ whereabouts. However, while the search continued for Douglas, Gissendaner basically continued business as usual, even going back to work. Gissendaner told Ms. Otis that her house would be paid for with insurance, so she did not have to worry. However, Gissendaner found out that there, in fact, was no insurance policy in effect. Gissendaner was irritated that Douglas had not taken care of it. Ms. Nesbit asked Gissendaner whether she thought co-defendant Owen had anything to do with Douglas being missing, but Gissendaner was very quiet and did not really respond to that question. Ms. Otis told Gissendaner that she should tell the investigator about co-defendant Owen, but Gissendaner did not do so.
Investigator Doug Davis of the Gwinnett County Police Department interviewed Gissendaner several times during the search for Douglas. On Sunday, Feb. 9, 1997, Gissendaner told him there were no marital problems between Douglas and her. During a second interview on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 1997, Gissendaner told Investigator Davis about the previous marital difficulties, that she had arrived home about 12:15 a.m. to 12:30 a.m. on Feb. 8, 1997, and that there were no life insurance policies in effect for Douglas. Investigator Davis learned about her relationship with co-defendant Owen before Gissendaner admitted to her extra-marital affair with co-defendant Owen. In another interview on Thursday, Feb. 13, 1997, Gissendaner told Investigator Davis that co-defendant Owen had threatened to kill her and that she had ended their relationship in December 1996 when she and Douglas had reconciled. She further acknowledged speaking with co-defendant Owen a few times since December 1996 when co-defendant Owen called her at work to inquire as to how she and the children were and that he had paged her as recently as Friday, Feb. 7, 1997. However, phone records indicated 65 contacts initiated by Gissendaner to co-defendant Owen, the last being a phone call to co-defendant Owen’s beeper at 12:28 a.m. on Friday night, Feb. 7, 1997. Gissendaner also told Investigator Davis that there were other men with whom she had recently had extra-marital affairs.
Douglas Gissendaner’s body was finally located on Feb. 20, 1996, approximately one mile from his car, 100 to 150 feet off the road, on his knees, face down. Douglas had received at least four stab wounds in the back of the head and the neck region. The cause of death was the stab wounds to the neck…. the right side of the victim’s neck, including the skin and much of the soft tissues, had been devoured by animals after death.
Owen initially denied any involvement in the murder, but confessed on Feb. 24, 1997, and implicated Gissendaner. Gissendaner was arrested for murder on Feb. 25, 1997. That day, Gissendaner called Pamela Kogut, saying “I did it.” However, Gissendaner also told her that Owen held a knife to her and said he would kill her and the children if she told anybody about it.
While in jail awaiting trial, Gissendaner shared a jail cell for a short period of time with Laura McDuffie. Gissendaner got angry and hostile when she heard that co-defendant Owen was to be sentenced to 25 years in prison for his role in the murder. At that point, Gissendaner began writing letters to hire a third person who would falsely confess to holding Gissendaner at gunpoint and making her go to the crime scene on the night of the murder. Gissendaner asked Ms. McDuffie to help her find that third party person and said she was willing to pay $10,000. Ms. McDuffie turned these letters, which also contained names of people that Gissendaner wanted beaten up, over to her lawyer because she did not want to get involved in a murder case.”

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Mr. Owen testified for the state. The majority of the state’s case is based on his testimony. Murderpedia has several court documents which cast doubt on Mr. Owen’s testimony.
“… trial counsel was able to elicit the following inconsistent facts in Owen’s testimony on cross-examination: “Owen originally lied to police regarding his whereabouts on the night of the murder”; “Owen admitted he did not implicate Petitioner in the murder until after the police had informed him that she was also seeing other men”; “Owen repeatedly told police that Petitioner had not come to the scene of her husband’s murder and did not testify at his plea hearing that Petitioner was at the scene of the murder on the night of the crime”; “What Owen did with the murder weapon, his clothes and several personal items”; “That Owen lied to police when he had informed them that he drove around after killing the Victim waiting for Petitioner to page him.”
“… Owen now maintains that he testified falsely at trial. He now maintains that: 1) Ms. Gissendaner did not supply the knife; 2) she was not involved in the planning of the actual killing; 3) Owen had the help of a third person whom he recruited in the abduction and killing; 4) Ms. Gissendaner did not know the third person was involved; and 5) Ms. Gissendaner never went to the murder scene to ensure her husband was dead.
The state habeas court held that Owen’s potential recantation at the habeas evidentiary hearing did not prove his trial testimony was false, and thus that the Petitioner failed to establish prong 1 of the Giglio/Jacobs test. The state habeas court reasoned: “The Georgia Supreme Court gives more credit to trial testimony than to post trial recantations.”
It could be argued that Mrs. Gissendaner is being executed as much for refusing to testify, as for the crime itself. “In Gissendaner’s case, said Danny Porter, the Gwinnett County District Attorney who sought the death penalty, the defendant sealed her fate. “For whatever reason she refused the offer to testify against her co-defendant, She kind of took her chances. Whether that was based on bad legal advice or her position at the time, which may have changed over the years.” … “You could say he took responsibility because he took the deal, Whereas Gissendaner left us with almost no choice.”
Murderpedia has a fishwrapper article from the trial, dated November 12, 1998. It says “Almost no one expects Gissendaner to be put to death.”
Another article is dated November 20, 1998, after the jury imposed the death sentence. “The jury rejected defense arguments … and that her 3 children, ages 5, 8 and 12, need their mother.” Who was watching the children February 7, 1997, when Mr. Gissendaner was out, and Mrs. Gissendaner went dancing at “The Shack”?
Amazon reviewer Sylviastel says “She had sons, Brandon, and Jonathon also known as Cody, with two other men but her daughter Kayla was her husband’s child.” Apparently, the 8 year old (age in 1998) is the daughter of Mr. Gissendaner. The 5, and 12 year olds had other daddies. The Gissendaner divorce was in 1993, about when the 5 year old was born.
Kelly Gissendaner, aka Kelly R. Brookshire, GDC ID:0000357507, is currently the only woman Under Death Sentence in Georgia. The Department of Corrections has a document, The Death Penalty in Georgia, which states “The first person believed legally executed in Colonial Georgia was a woman. In 1735, Alice Ryley, a white female who arrived in America on an Irish transport, was hung for the murder of her master Will Wise.” The fishwrapper states “Georgia has put to death 13 women since 1735,” but does not offer any details.
The GDC document has a list of all executions since 1924, when the electric chair was installed at the Reidsville facility. The only woman put to death since then is Lena Baker, a black lady accused of killing her employer. She died March 5, 1945, and was pardoned by the state in 2005.
Kelly Gissendaner, Doug Gissendaner, and Greg Bruce are all white. The State seems to alternate black, and white, prisoners when choosing people to poison. Is this intentional?
During the appeals process, “Gissendaner contends that the jury pools from which her grand jury and traverse jury were selected were created in a racially-discriminatory manner.” This is a standard part of the appeals routine. The state went on to say “Moreover, persons who murder white persons are of course not a protected class under the Equal Protection Clause.”
If you want to write Mrs. Gissendaner, you can go to WriteAPrisoner. ” My name is Kelly. Recently I was introduced to WriteAPrisoner after being incarcerated for 17 years. The past few years have been kind of lonely. So the possibility of meeting new friends is very appealing at this point.
My hobbies include reading, writing, and dancing. I recently started doing spiritual dancing, which I have come to love! I enjoy nature and when the weather permits, I spend many days outside. Right now I’m enrolled in Theology classes so please know that I am extremely open-minded.”
There is a book about the case, First We’ll Kill My Husband: The Dark Desires of the Only Woman on Georgia’s Death Row. Amazon reviewers have not been kind. “All the book did was reinforce my views about rural Georgia “white trash”. Historic pictures for this feature are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. Color pictures are from Georgia Department of Corrections, Murderpedia, WriteAPrisoner, and findagrave. UPDATE Clemency has been denied. The execution will proceed when weather permits.

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Why Telephone Keypads Are Different From Computer Keypads

Posted in GSU photo archive, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on February 16, 2015

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It is a question for the ages…why do telephones have 123 on the top row of the keypad, while computers have 789? The best answer is , we don’t know.

Calculator/computer keypads were an improvement on cash registers. These devices had a matrix of buttons, with the 9 row on top. The row at the far right had single digits, and the row next to them had digits ending in one zero. To ring up a sale for $1.95, you had to push 100, 90, and 5. This evolved into the adding machine configuration of three rows of three buttons, with 0 on the bottom row and 789 on the top row.

When we got started, the telephone used a dial. 1 was at the top, and 0 was at the bottom. The early phone systems used letters as part of the phone number. The first three letters of the seven digit code were two letters and five numbers. (This is what PG remembers from childhood. It may have been different before then).

The two letters referred to an exchange, or part of town where the number was located. The two letters referred to a word. An example would be PG’s grandmother. Her number was TR2 2345. The TR stood for Trinity. Many numbers in midtown Atlanta still start with 87.

In the sixties, ma bell started to develop a keypad to use for what were then called push button phones. In a break with the adding machine tradition, the numbers 123 went on the top row. There are a few ideas why this is, but nothing is certain.

In the early days, the phone switching equipment was not as fast as today. Some thought that by switching the numbers to the top of the keypad, people would have to slow down a bit to “dial” the number. This answer does not make sense to those of us who have grown up with these keypads, and who learned to punch in numbers fast, no matter what system is used. (Anyone using a rotary phone, after getting used to touch tone, is shocked at how slow it is.)

Another concept is the phone company wanting to model the new keypad after the dial phones. This would mean putting the 1 at the top, and 0 at the bottom. Also, with the letters assigned to each number, it would make a lot more sense to have 123/abc def ghi on the top row.

It was suggested that the calculator keypad was patented in the 789-on-top format. Western Electric did not want to pay royalties on this important piece of equipment, so it designed another one. There is also the thought that the calculator was on a desk shelf, where the lower numbers should be at the bottom of the keypad. At the same time, the telephone was on the lower part of the desk, and having 123 on top would be easier to use.

This is a repost. This comment was left on facebook, after the first post.

I won’t pretend to know exactly their reasons, but I will say that I can see some logic in doing it this way. In a numerical context (calculator/computer), you’d want zero next to one, which is where it is in the number sequence. However on… a telephone, 0 has a special meaning: call the operator (at least, it used to mean this).

The guys at Bell Labs took this into consideration when they implemented the “touch tone” or DTMF dialing system. Old style pulse dialing was annoying because it would literally send a pulse for each number (two pulses for two, nine pulses for nine, etc). I meant larger numbers took longer. To change this, and also in anticipation of the fact that eventually phones would be connected to computers, they instead put all the numbers on a grid with each row and column assigned a unique frequency. Each key on the pad combined the two frequencies to produce a tone. In order to accommodate ten numbers, you need a grid of at least 4X3, which they actually increased to 4×4 because they wanted some additional tones (A-D) for extra network functionality.

Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”.

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Joni Mitchell Product

Posted in GSU photo archive, Music, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on February 15, 2015

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Joni Mitchell has product to promote. She gave an interview to New York magazine, where she smoked a few cigarettes and expressed a few opinions. There were enough attention getting comments to make the news.

When I see black men sitting, I have a tendency to go — like I nod like I’m a brother. I really feel an affinity because I have experienced being a black guy on several occasions.” She proceeds to tell a story about dressing like a down and out black man as a way of dealing with an obnoxious photographer. “I just stood there till they noticed me. I walked really showily, going, Heh heh heh. It was a great revenge. That was all to get his ass. To freak him out. I had to keep him on the defensive.”

Gay-mafia-made-man David Geffen was a target. “I ask her about a painting, visible in a vestibule, on the way to her laundry room, of a curly-haired man with a banana lodged vertically in his mouth; turns out it’s Geffen, and she painted it. “Before he came out. He’s never seen it,” she says, before explaining: “He was using me as a beard. We were living together, and he’d go cruising at night. He was very ambitious to be big and powerful, and he didn’t think he would be [if he was openly gay].” By 1994, the two had fallen out over her insistence that he didn’t pay her enough in royalties.”

The product is a four cd boxed set, Love Has Many Faces: A Quartet, A Ballet, Waiting To Be Danced. It is sort of like a greatest hits collection. There was a similar video a while back, Hits and Misses. That title was possibly inspired by No Hits, Four Errors: The Best of Martin Mull.

There was a single one star comment about the joniproduct.Al Norman Seems like a collection of Joni’s forgettable tunes February 3, 2015 ~ “My wife loves Joni Mitchell, and never listens to this set. Seems like a collection of Joni’s forgettable tunes.” This comment was sponsored by Head and Shoulders. “100% flake free hair & A GREAT SCENT”

You just can’t get away from capitalism. Ms. Mitchell heard “… on the radio, a record executive “saying quite confidently, ‘We’re no longer looking for talent. We’re looking for a look and a willingness to cooperate.” As interviewer Carl Swanson notes, “For now, she’s hoping that people buy her boxed set, with her self-portrait on the cover. To that end, she gives me a Joni Mitchell tote bag with one of her paintings on it to carry my things home in. Get the word out.”

The pictures today are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. The internet version of the Joni story had a lively exchange in the comments.

OneTonneTomatoe A better Eden is ahead to be established. One that cannot be corrupted is forward in time and place, not behind, not here. Be seated beyond the firmament. Romans 10:9
JamesSmith @OneTonneTomatoe Leave it to the christian arrogance to try t turn this into a proselyting effort. Your bable is a pack of myths and lies and you are a delusional fool.
cookie_mcgill @JamesSmith I don’t enjoy the poster above either, but smearing all Christians like that is offensive. Go easy there, tiger.
JamesSmith @cookie_mcgill @JamesSmith Prove anythng I posted is not true.
Theists, especially christians, are arrogant judgmental, unforgving, intolerant, deluional, irrational, and either fools, liars, or hypocrites. It’s all true and proven by the behavior of 99% of all theists, including christians. Go easy yourself and think about it. Face reality, not myths and lies.
cookie_mcgill @JamesSmith I wouldn’t take directions from either of you twits.
JamesSmith @cookie_mcgill @JamesSmith Prove anything I posted is not true. Especially tell me what I posted that makes you think I would even give a moron like you even the time of day. You’re as arrogant as the most fundamentalist theist.

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Gay Marriage And The KKK

Posted in GSU photo archive, Politics, Race, Religion, The Internet, Undogegorized by chamblee54 on February 13, 2015

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It seems as though the United Dixie White Knights is opposed to gay marriage in Alabama. The article in The New Civil Rights Movement credits blog superstar Joe.My.God. with breaking the story. JMG reports he was “Tipped by JMG reader Fred.”

As could be predicted, facebooker are gleefully posting stock photos of klansmen, and making snarky comments. The opposition of UDWK is seen as another selling point for the benefits of gay marriage. After all, if the Klan is against something, then you need to be for it.

The fact that the issue of marriage is being decided in federal courts is not discussed. Marriage has always been a legal construct. The states and the federal government are fighting over who gets to regulate marriage, which usually does not end well for the states. The acronym IANAL is useful. Maybe arranged marriages, involving cattle, are the tradition to follow.

One wonders why “the Klan” even bothers. They are a national joke. They get less respect than the Westboro Baptist Church. If they say something, the media gleefully reports and distorts. It is almost as if someone hacked into the UDWK site, in an effort to make them look bad. If you look at the rhetoric, grammar, and spelling of the document, you might come to that conclusion.

If you want to see the UDWK statement, you get a screen: “Adult Content Warning ~ The site uniteddixiewhiteknights that you are about to view may contain content only suitable for adults.” You have two choices: “I would like to proceed to the site. ~ I do not wish to view this page.”

In it’s report, The New Civil Rights Movement mentions “The statement, to which we will not link.” TNCRM story is sponsored by LGBT Family Planning, and How To Remove Dark Spots, Watch Shocking Presentation. Stories about the KKK are good for getting people to look at paid advertising.

Last summer, a report circulated: KKK Raising Money for Police Officer Who Shot African-American Teen. “The South Carolina-based New Empire Knights of the Ku Klux Klan says its Missouri chapter is raising money for the still unidentified white police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, 18, who was scheduled to begin college classes this week.” This report was used to discredit Darren Wilson, while the investigation was ongoing.

During this weeks Klan sighting, a followup appeared to this story, KKK Disowns KKK Fundraiser for Darren Wilson “The fundraising email is actually in violation of the traditional Klan constitution, according to another Imperial Wizard, Frank Ancona. Ancona leads the Traditionalist American Knights, one of the largest branches of the KKK, approaching 10,000 members in the lower 48 states. Their headquarters are in Missouri.

The KKK is split into many smaller subdivisions, explained Ancona, and often times, banished members of a larger branch will attempt to start their own. Ancona believes this is the case with Murray, who is not even known to the Traditionalist American Knights. (Murray is Imperial Wizard Chuck Murray, of the New Empire Knights.)

“He basically made up his own name,” Ancona said, explaining that Murray may not even be on his birth certificate. “We are a registered organization. We have a charter with the state… Half of them don’t have the rituals for our ceremonies.”

Ancona worked with senior members of his organization to attempt to find Murray and confirm his connection to the larger group, but they could not. “No one has ever heard of the guy, I talked to the older members of our group,” he said. “There are other legitimate Klan organizations, but this group here sprang out in the last year or so I don’t believe he has any members. I think it’s just him.”

Additionally, Ancona believes Murray’s fundraising effort is a scam, because technically, members of the Klan cannot speak with the media, let alone solicit their help with raising donations. All members sign an agreement that forbids conversations with the press. Only highly vetted officials interact with reporters, and even then, interviews are rare.”

The KKK has historically been a secret society. Is posting a manifesto on the internet, and leaking it to Joe.My.God., the way things are done in the internet age? Is the UDWK a glory seeking fringe group? Maybe the post is a false flag operation, designed to build support for gay marriage.

In case anyone is confused, this post does not support the KKK. Nor will there be the ritual denunciation that anti-racists seem to feel obligated to make. It is just an effort by a slack blogger to make sense of a few things that defy explanation. The pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library”. The rally was held July 14, 1939 at Stone Mountain.

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The Georgian Terrace Ballroom

Posted in Georgia History, GSU photo archive, Music by chamblee54 on February 11, 2015









The Georgian Terrace hotel used to have an adjacent ballroom. The building opened as the “Lucky Strike”, featuring “Duck Pin” bowling. At some time, it became a 1300 seat ballroom. It was not the grand ballroom, where events for the premiere of “Gone With The Wind” were held. As time moved on, the ballroom became a music performance hall. PG saw shows there under four different business names. After the Agora Ballroom closed, the building was vacant, until a fire August 30, 1987. The site of the ballroom is now occupied by an annex of the Georgian Terrace Hotel.

The first show PG saw at this facility was in 1972. The name of the business is forgotten, as is the act that performed. A band, comprised of people PG went to high school with, played before he got there.

In 1974, “Big Time” promoter Alex Cooley opened “Alex Cooley’s Electric Ballroom”. The first show that PG saw was Dr. John The Night Tripper. A few months later, Capricorn artists Cowboy played, with a vulgar New York band named Mercury opening. Gato Barbieri played at the Ballroom, with PG wondering how people could dance to that type of music.

Several major acts appeared at the Ballroom, mostly without PG in the audience. KISS played there in 1974, and photographs from backstage are in the embedded video. In April of 1974, Steely Dan was across from the Fox. In the summer of 1974, The Tubes played a week at the ballroom, with another heavily hyped show. On January 23, 1976, The Patti Smith Group played at the ballroom.

In 1975, Bruce Springsteen was on the covers of Time and Newsweek, and was recieving a promotional push unlike anything seen before. He played a show at the ballroom that summer, with a generous press party in the balcony. (At one unforgettable show Alex was caught off guard by a Bruce Springsteen request. “He asked if we could shut down the cash registers because they were making too much noise!… That’s the only time I ever did that.” Alex admits.)

PG attended two shows in 1975. Mckendree Spring opened for Fanny, while PG drank too many bourbon and cokes. In November of 1975, Juice Newton opened for Hot Tuna. Miss Newton seemed to be a bit pale, and performed “Get drunk and screw”. Hot Tuna was amazing. They went on stage at 10:55, and played, without a break, until 2:50. The drummer wore a shirt, mother fucking hot tuna. Few would argue that night.

In autumn of 1977, some brave soul opened a place called “The Ballroom” in the space on Peachtree Street. One night, PG went with some friends to see an act, Happy the Man. There seemed to be a bit of chaos in the management of the facility. The Great Southeast Music Hall loaned a few microphones for the show. When the show was over, PG walked out to a car, whose motor was running, with the driver asleep inside.

In the summer of 1978, the ballroom opened as The Agora Ballroom. Apparently, there is a music hall in Cleveland with that name, and they opened branch facilities around the country. There were some shows that PG did not attend. Todd Rundgren opened the facility August 19, 1978. On October 2, 1979, The Clash played. Pictures from the crowd appeared on an album by the band. On December 2, 1981, U2 made their Atlanta debut.

A few weeks after the opening, PG won tickets to an all Texas show. Marcia Ball opened, and a bored PG went to a neighborhood bar to drink beer. PG returned later, and stayed long enough for the singer with Asleep at the Wheel to ask the crowd, Are you stoned?

In November of 1978, PG called a radio station, and asked to be put on the guest list for Talking Heads . (For Talking Heads, and three links in the following paragraphs, the link is for a previous Chamblee 54 post about the show.) The first six people he called were busy, but the last one agreed to go. On the bus going home, a group of black men started to make unfriendly comments. At the next stop, a black friend of PG got on the bus, and went to talk to him.

A few weeks later, Tim Curry made his United States debut. Some record company invested a lot of money in him, and supplied him with an outstanding band. PG was wandering around the balcony after the first show, and saw Tom Waits sitting at a table. The bodyguard said no, that’s not Tom Waits, it is just someone that looks like him. At a bar, after the show, PG was raving about what he had seen, when a lady came up to him. What color are your eyes? They are brown, because you are full of shit. Soon, the 23 Oglethorpe was taking him home.

Somewhere in the haze of 78 and 79, Ultravox brought their synthetics to the Agora. A local band, First Blood, was more entertaining as the opener. PG drank a very large can of Foster’s beer, and floated through the proceedings. After the show, PG was invited to a party in Candler Park. On the way there, there was a horrific car crash on Ponce de Leon. At the party, friends of First Blood dissected their performance, between lines of coke.

One night, PG was enjoying drink specials at a neighborhood bar. He took a break, walked over to the Agora, and saw a few minutes of a show by Freddie Hubbard.

In early 1979, the B 52s were on the verge of stardom. (Here is a nifty feature about the Atlanta local music scene in those days.) The opener for the 52s was The Brains , yet another talented band that never made it big. At the table next to PG, a lady wore a dynamite World War Two army uniform.

Later in 1979, Ted Turner had an idea for a TV show, “Live at the Agora”. The first show was filmed in Atlanta, and featured Graham Parker and the Rumor. If they ever show that film again, and you see a crowd shot, that is PG wearing a white T shirt, with a white Agora iron on logo. Parker was a great musician, who had the misfortune to look like Big Bird’s nerdy little brother. If Graham Parker had looked like Bruce Springsteen, he would have been a superstar.

In March of 1980, Lene Lovich came to the Agora. About a year later, Spirit played on Peachtree Street. The show was sponsored by a radio station, and tickets were $2.96. Despite the low price, and high musical quality, the balcony was closed, and only about a hundred people were at the show. PG thought this was odd, but little surprised him by this time.

The last show that PG caught at the Agora was The Ramones. Joey and the pinheads were past their prime, with only two original members playing. It was an all ages show, with alcohol served in the balcony. Downstairs was a festive party, with costumes and enthusiastic high school kids. The balcony was the same rock and roll drunks you had seen for years. The Ramones would have made a great oldies band, if they could have quit dying. This is a repost. Pictures are from ” The Special Collections and Archives,Georgia State University Library”