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Hashtag Bash

Posted in Commodity Wisdom by chamblee54 on June 14, 2012








There is a twitter fight going on. On one side is #LiberalismIn4Words, with the predictable alternative #ConservatismIn4Words. Momma’s basement  is buzzing with activity.
PG has always maintained that Liberal and Conservative are meaningless words, designed to start pointless arguments. @MacGhil The Ruling Class’ divide & conquer strategy: We attack each other, & they amass power & wealth. #ConservatismIn4words #LiberalismIn4Words.
There seem to be a lot of notions about the “other side”, which may or may not be true. The possibility exists that the tweets say more about the sender than they do their opponent. ‏@loghaD #LiberalismIn4Words Yet another meaningless label. #ConservatismIn4Words Yeah, that one too.
@SooperMexican ***Analytical Evidence Conservatives won hashtag battles #Liberalismin4words and #conservatismin4words: Stupid Liberals Call For Political Hashtag War, Conservatives Destroy Them. Mr. Mexican throws a bunch of statistics out, and makes the claim that conservatives won this battle. There is a difference between prove and indicate.
In preparing this report, PG copied lists of “top tweets” for both hashtags. He sorted the tweets into four groups. This is just one person’s view. The only thing that it proves is that PG has too much free time. We already knew that.

The first category is abortion. Evidently, conservatives think liberals get off on murdering babies. Liberals are snickering about how politicians are taking advantage of well meaning conservatives. The truth is that abortion is a free lunch issue. You denounce it to your hearts content, and no one pays atttention to your ethical shortcomings.
@SueLantto: every person has value #truth #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@JackTomczak Except a baby girl @kentkaiser Or a Down’s baby.
‏@ballergirl34 #LiberalismIn4Words We care about children.
#ConservatismIn4Words Only before they’re born.
@CnservativePunk Kill babies. Free criminals. #Liberalismin4words
‏@Paul_Conrad Pro-life until it’s born #conservatismin4words
‏@RaisingOneBrow #ConservatismIn4Words Your body, our business.

The second category is things that make you say huh. A.K.A. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Some arguments bend logic into funny shapes. Both sides play this game.
‏@L_Wheels #ConservatismIn4Words Attack America? You die.
#LiberalismIn4Words Attack America? My apologies.
@keder Conservative women: way hotter. #ConservatismIn4Words
‏@MrKips #ConservatismIn4Words Let’s Twitterflog The Liberals
‏@keilemon Please vote “caste system.” #ConservatismIn4Words
‏@TechBrigade #ConservatismIn4Words – Man walked with dinosaurs
‏@JustenCharters Taxes Mean Free Stuff. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@theGrudgeRetort Greece got it right. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@theGrudgeRetort Math is hard, ya’ll. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@LittleSlav #LiberalismIn4Words I don’t need 4. One word is sufficient: unamerican
‏@VAKruta Tolerance, except for Christians. #LiberalismIn4Words
@ExJon #LiberalismIn4Words Racisty, Racist Racist! RAAAAAAAAAAACIST!
‏@jorticulture #LiberalismIn4Words concede positions then bargain, ahahaha yep america

The third category is things that apply to both liberals and conservatives. In these tweets, replace the hastag with a blank space. It is tough to tell who is talking about who. This considers the actions of these partisans, and not just the rheroric.
@joachim #LiberalismIn4Words Your Reckless Spending Addiction
@NonLiberalVTer I deserve your money. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@brendlewhat #LiberalismIn4Words meanwhile, your skeleton waits
‏@spaceship_earth #LiberalismIn4Words important to win argument
‏@RepubGirlProbz #LiberalismIn4Words They don’t use logic
‏@EricBandazewski #LiberalismIn4Words It Works In Theory
#ConservatismIn4Words It Works In Reality
@RepubGirlProbz #LiberalismIn4Words Biggest idiots in America
‏@DLoesch You all are racists. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@SenMikeLee Constitutional? Are you serious? #liberalismin4words
‏@IMAO_ Make every city Detroit. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@derekahunter Facts do not matter #LiberalismIn4Words
@Tomm_Dogg #LiberalismIn4Words Tweet whatever you want.
‏@KristinaRibali The world owes me #Liberalismin4Words
‏@KristinaRibali I am a victim #liberalismin4words
‏@bob_owens Die once. Vote forever. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@SooperMexican Let’s Outlaw All Consequences! #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@lheal Tax, Borrow, Print, Spend. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@JustenCharters Life Is Not Fair. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@JustenCharters Lacks perspective. Shuns reality. #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@thatalexyarde Crappy days here again #ConservatismIn4Words
‏@patticar #ConservatismIn4Words Harvest Everything Forget Tomorrow
‏@word_34 #ConservatismIn4Words Never Actually Read Constitution
‏@ballergirl34 #LiberalismIn4Words Where in the Constitution?
#ConservatismIn4Words I’m sorry, the what?
‏@JenGranholm #ConservatismIn4Words: Let Detroit Go Bankrupt
#ConservatismIn4Words Americans have short memories
‏@La_Shawn It’s not my fault! #LiberalismIn4Words
‏@Im_bonafide #LiberalismIn4Words .. Let Me Be Clear…
‏@Ennui_Raver #liberalismin4words Yard work oh boy
@ThatGuySpike #LiberalismIn4Words: Full understanding of issues.
#ConservatismIn4Words: Off on a tangent.
@KRBCanada1 #conservatismin4words Demonize Instead Of Analyze
@malclave Living in THIS reality. #ConservatismIn4Words

Last are the winners in this contest. All of these tweeters get a free subscription to chamblee54.
‏@DavidAllenGreen Libertarianism for grown ups. #LiberalismIn4Words
@MlTTR0MNEY #LiberalismIn4Words Romney Ten Years Ago
‏@pari_passu RT @DrMaldoror: #ConservatismIn4Words Riding God’s Short Bus
@StevenDumas #ConservatismIn4Words No more Barack Kardashian.
‏@MlTTR0MNEY Help a Millionaire Out #ConservatismIn4Words
‏@ColdCauphee #ConservatismIn4Words Falsify War Get Rich
@Fireflysghost Organize Hegemony for Jesus #ConservatismIn4Words
@elbrigaciagar #Conservatismin4words Jesus loves Ayn Rand.
@word_34 #ConservatismIn4Words Never Actually Read Constitution
@elbrigaciagar Never read Bible either.
@purplehullpea #ConservatismIn4Words Wishes Mitt was likable
Pictures are from The Library of Congress.







War President

Posted in Undogegorized by chamblee54 on June 13, 2012








To this day, there is confusion about why the United States fought a war in Vietnam. There is talk about communism. There was a dominoes theory. (The delivery took more than thirty minutes.) The one which aroused PG’s curiosity was the urge to “nail that coonskin to the wall.”

According to the History News Network , President Lyndon B. Johnson made three trips to Vietnam.
“In 1961 Johnson, then vice president, visited Saigon. He assured the South Vietnamese the United States would stand by them … LBJ called South Vietnamese leader Diem the “Churchill of Asia.”
On October 26, 1966 Johnson visited Vietnam on his first trip as president. The week before anti-war protests had been held in 40 cities in the United States. At the end of December 1967 LBJ worked in another trip to Vietnam while traveling to Australia for the funeral of Prime Minister Harold Holt, who had died in a drowning accident. Visiting Cam Ranh Bay, LBJ urged the soldiers to”nail that coonskin to the wall.”

While researching this post, PG found a feature comparing BHO in Afghanistan to LBJ in Vietnam. (Lebron James is not taking his talents to Hanoi.) The story is that LBJ had serious doubts about whether we could win in Vietnam, but did not want to appear weak. (He may also have been influenced by the fate of JFK, who had started to withdraw troops from Vietnam.) There is a pungent paragraph:
“In this narrative, Johnson sent up to 1,000 Americans a month to their deaths because he didn’t “want the political fallout that would come from not fighting” Vietnam. Others have argued that, contrary to Blankney’s assertion, LBJ really wanted “to nail that coonskin to the wall” in Southeast Asia; that he fought it from strategic principle not political expediency. But many will concede that whether LBJ wanted to win it or not, he fought it with one eye to the public relations polls and the reactions of his own left wing. He imposed so many restrictions, introduced so many rules that perhaps whether LBJ ‘wanted to win’ or not, his objective strategic behavior was in the end indistinguishable from someone who wanted to lose. And he lost.”
Many of the soldiers in Vietnam were drafted. This means that the government told you that you were going into the service, or going to jail. (Young readers might be unfamiliar with the concept. When you ask your elders about communism, you can ask them about Selective Service.) While the government was dithering in it’s approach to the war, the men who were sent to fight were ordered to make a total commitment. Many did not come home alive.

Another online feature about Obama’s challenging war options shows up a difference in attitudes about war today.
“Publicly, Johnson said it was a war we had to fight and that we would win it. Now, of course, we know that he believed we couldn’t win even before he sent the first of those 57,992 American boys over there to die.”
Whether you agree or disagree with a war, it is preposterous to say that the soldiers are boys. If anyone deserves to be called a man, it is those troops. Today, we have more women in our armed forces than we did in Vietnam. (This page of statistics lists, by name, eight American service women who died in Vietnam.) It simply isn’t said, of this war, that the soldiers are our boys and girls. While the dirty business of war goes on, it is an improvement to not call our soldiers boys.







At the seven minute mark of his speech on Afghanistan , BHO starts a paragraph with the phrase “my fellow americans”. Those of a certain age will remember another democratic warpotus, Lyndon Johnson, who was fond of saying MFA. Whatever rude things were said about lightbulb Lyndon, no one ever asked to see his birth certificate. Perhaps that is what BHO meant by that phrase.

The paragraph that BHO starts with this bit of sixties nostalgia ( four year old Barry probably did not see the SOU message linked above) caught PG’s eye when reading the transcript . “My fellow Americans, this has been a difficult decade for our country. We have learned anew the profound cost of war — a cost that has been paid by the nearly 4,500 Americans who have given their lives in Iraq, and the over 1,500 who have done so in Afghanistan — men and women who will not live to enjoy the freedom that they defended.”

Are you sure, Barry? Over a million Iraqis live in exile in Syria as we speak. They may have jumped out of the frying pan, and into the fire. The reason they left was to escape the civil war that our “liberation” of Babylon set off. They have paid a price for our “mission accomplished”.

Are you sure Sean Hannity? Every day, you say to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. ( At least you were the last time PG was brave enough to listen to your show.) Historically, the profound cost of war has been paid, at least partially, by higher taxes. In world war two, people sold war bonds, and encouraged each other to invest in the defeat of the Nazis. In this war, the right wing wants to pay for it by lowering taxes. The result is a national debt that is going to burden our economy for decades.

Getting back to the message by BHO (It was made in an empty hall, with gilt edged chairs replacing the Seal of the Presidency. Not to worry, BHO was wearing a flag pin on his lapel.) … there was another Vietnam flashback at 7:53. “And even as there will be dark days ahead in Afghanistan, the light of a secure peace can be seen in the distance.” Is this light at the end of a tunnel?

At 8:58 comes this gem:“When innocents are being slaughtered and global security endangered, we don’t have to choose between standing idly by or acting on our own.” Since BHO has taken over as warpotus, the drone strikes over the third world have dramatically increased. This is air slaughter, against a helpless population, directed by remote control from a cave in Nevada. Many of the people killed in these raids are women and children, who are not members of Al Qaeda. (To be fair, some of the children would have been terrorists if they had been able to grow up.) We don’t have to choose, because the decision was made by warpotus BHO…we will use our high tech weapons to KILL, KILL, KILL.

Pictures are from The Library of Congress. This is a double repost





City Of Brookhaven

Posted in Georgia History by chamblee54 on June 13, 2012













There is a proposal to create a city of Brookhaven. On July 31, the matter will go before the voters. The proposed city is between Atlanta, Chamblee, I 285, and I 85.

There has been a fad for creating new cities in the North metro area. North Fulton has been divided between John’s Creek, Milton, and Sandy Springs. DeKalb county has the proposed Brookhaven, and Dunwoody. Brookhaven is the first of the new cities to be completely located inside I 285 (ITP).

PG has gotten mailings from those who say yes, and from those who say no. Neither mailer was printed at a Union shop. Both sides quote a feasibility study from the Carl Vinson Institute.

According to the yes website, “The 5 services the city will take over from DeKalb are : Police, Parks, Roads, Zoning and Code Enforcement. Fire, Water and Sewer, Sanitation, Schools etc., will remain with DeKalb county”.

According to Wikipedia, the new city would have 40, 456 people. The racial breakdown is 61.52% White, Hispanic 27.41%, 17.56% Black, and 4.88% Asian. The numbers for the registered voters are probably different, with many of the Hispanic people transient. DeKalb county is 54.3% Black, and county politics are dominated by the Black community.

The yes mailer has racial undertones. It has a picture of Dekalb CEO Burrell Ellis, who is African American. The headline read “What’s CEO Burrell Ellis doing with Your Tax Dollars? There is a quote from an “Email from lobbyist to DeKalb County”, with a line about fighting the proposed new city.

PG attended a meet and greet with Mr. Ellis recently, and the subject of the new city came up. Mr. Ellis thinks the finances of the new city would be precarious. The figures used in the feasibility study are from real estate values that have been declining. The new city will not have a much money as many think it will. This point is made by the no crowd. Mr. Ellis said that he thinks people are wanting a new city for the wrong reasons.

The issue of the new city having enough money to operate is key. The no people say it won’t, the yes people say it will. Brookhaven has more poverty than the other new cities, and less commercial areas. There are height restrictions in much of the area, because of Peachtree DeKalb Airport.

An important issue is taxes. The yes crowd say they will be lower. The no crowd says they will be higher. The millage rate will be set at 3.35, and an increase would require voter approval.

Franchise fees will be a factor in the money. According to the no website, “Franchise Fees are the taxes charged to utility companies for the use of the public right of way for utility poles, pipes, and cabling. We already pay 1.2% on our GA Power bill now, but do not on landline phone bills. Incorporated cities such as what Brookhaven could possibly become, are allowed to charge the utility companies higher percentages than counties. As a result the utility companies pass that extra charge along to the consumer.  Georgia Power and landline phone bills will be  where we see the increases.”

Another big issue is police. The yes people say “DeKalb county assigns 3 to 6 patrol officers to the entire area of Brookhaven. The city of Brookhaven will increase this number to a minimum fo 8 to 9 officers at all times.” The no people say that the new city should have 83 police officers, and that the budget calls for 53.

Chamblee54, despite the name, is west of Chamblee, and is part of the proposed new city. There have been features about Brookhaven recently, including vintage pictures. The election on the new city will be July 31. All affected voters are encouraged to study the issues, and make your opinion known. The spell check suggestion for Brookhaven is Brokenhearted. Pictures today are from ” The Special Collections and Archives,Georgia State University Library”














Desktop Cleanup

Posted in Religion by chamblee54 on June 12, 2012











There are a few documents cluttering the desktop at chamblee54. One way to deal with this is to combine a few into one post. Most of these, one way or another, are connected to religion, or the processed G-dproduct we have in our culture. Pictures are from “The Special Collections and Archives,Georgia State University Library”
Three years ago, PG recycled a chain mail message about G-d. If you must read it, go here. The essence is this quote:”Isn’t it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,people think twice about sharing?~Isn’t it funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you’re not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it to them ~Isn’t it funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what G-d thinks of me”
Last week, this was on facebook: “When someone like Madonna or the Scissor sisters come out with a new Album or goes on tour everyone rushes to buy tickets and buy the album. When a healer learns some new way of helping someone heal…well, the healer doesn’t get a rush of clients in. We put more emphasis on entertainment and frivolity than we do for actual health. I guess we have all been brainwashed into thinking that external garbage is more important than our health.”
chamblee54 I got a religious chain mail message once. There was a comment…”Isn’t it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,people think twice about sharing?”. This sounds a lot like the message here…that people will pay big bucks to enjoy Madonna and the Scissor Sisters (who?), but will not pay the same money for healing. I am sympathetic to what Michael is doing. I think healing outside of industrial medicine can be of great value. However, when you toss out a nonsense argument, in support of marketing this healing, then I lose a bit of that sympathy. The message is great. It is the medium that angers me.

Peach Pundit had a feature about Georgia Republicans honoring Karen Handel for, um, making noise about abortion. This is a great topic for people with more spare time than common sense. The comment section was fun.
chamblee54 May 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm How many “pro life” people support wars?
Lawton Sack May 29, 2012 at 2:09 pm How many “pro-choice” people don’t support wars because people die?
TheEiger May 29, 2012 at 2:45 pm Charlie – isn’t chamblee54 posts SPAM? If I had a junk box for PP all of chamblee54 postings would go there right next to the folks that have a million dollars in a British bank account and all they need is you account number to transfer it to you.
Rick Day May 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm This is actually going to be pretty cool. When the Atlanta City Council wrote legislation to tighten illegal alcohol consumption on unlicensed premises, it technically made all tail gating illegal. Be careful what you wish for, Oh Godly Engineers of Morality.
The Last Democrat in Georgia May 29, 2012 at 7:18 pm Pro-life social conservatives want to ban abortion. Republicans do NOT want to ban abortion. Republicans want to keep abortion legal so that they keep it around as an ongoing campaign issue, a deep political well that they can always turn to in times of political need, especially in election years, not-to-mention create some work opportunities for their cronies in the legal field. Hence the reason why the Georgia Legislature passed an anti-abortion bill that seems an open invitation for legal challenges.
The Last Democrat in Georgia May 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm The Georgia Legislature’s official response to concerns about ethics (or their noticeable lack of): LOOK! Over there! ABORTION!!!! ….Now can you possibly imagine how hard that would have been to pull off if abortion had already been banned? I can’t even imagine as the actual thought is completely horrifying.
chamblee54 May 29, 2012 at 10:23 pm My posts AREN’T spam. I don’t like to eat it either. I do enjoy this vision of spam. The “life issues” have many shades of gray. Probably more than fifty, but without the controversy. Here is one of the times I have written about it. As for Karen Handel, isn’t it time for her fifteen minutes to be over? Anybody who can get Sarah Palin to make an appearance for her, and lost to a notoriously corrupt congressman, does not need to be in politics.
seenbetrdayz May 30, 2012 at 10:22 am Truth to your comments. If the abortion debate was ever settled once-and-for all, the GOP would lose a giant issue it keeps using as a carrot to dangle over the heads of its Christian base to gain votes every election. It’s like a form job security for the GOP, so it’s in the GOP’s best interest to make sure that they don’t pursue the issue too vigorously. I’m surprised that the christian right hasn’t realized it’s being used yet.

Jesus worship blogger Phil Johnson announced his retirement from blogging today. His doctor ordered him to remove stress from his life. Telling people how to get into heaven might be troubling his soul.
PG and Mr. Johnson have butted heads a few times. PG seemed to enjoy it, while Mr. Johnson got dirty. Wrestling with a hog will do that. After a while, PG was banned from commenting, and might be better off for it.
One curious exchange involved gambling. Discomfort with gaming for money is one part of Baptistry that PG carries with him. Mr. Johnson wrote a post about gambling. (The post is no longer available. The comments are here..) PG wrote to express support, and still got in trouble.
chamblee54 I was going to post this to the original site, but that site requires a registration. This is regarding the series on gambling. Thank you for your commentary. An aversion to gambling is one part of my baptist upbringing that I have held onto. I look forward to reading the particulars of your moral objection to gaming. While I sense that gambling is wrong, I know few arguments that this is the case. Also, gambling is becoming more and more fashionable and acceptable. The gaming industry has a powerful p.r. machine, and they are good at confusing people.I also look forward to the guest commentary by Bill Bennett. One sentence in your initial post caught my attention…”In other words, one person’s gain always comes at the price of hurt caused to others.” This reminded me of a situation at a job I used to have. I was working closely with an abusive jesus worshiper, who simply would not shut up. While his “faith” may have grown, I became bitterly alienated from jesus. My pain paid the price for his jesus party.
chamblee54 I enjoyed the second post of the gambling series. It is interesting to see the 10th commandment cited. The admonition against coveting is one of the less popular commandments, especially by the proponents of “prosperity doctrine”. And why would anyone want to post the 10th commandment at a courthouse where they collect taxes and hear lawsuits? I also appreciate your use of non-bible based arguments. Not everyone agrees that the bible is the word of god. Those who disagree with you on this point still need some direction, especially on an issue like gambling, with the well financed p.r. machines of the casinos making so much noise.
Phil Johnson Thanks, Chamblee54. For the record, though, logical arguments showing how biblical principles apply to ethical and moral questions are not “non-bible based arguments.” The subject ultimately matters to me only because I believe that the Bible is the Word of God, and I’m accountable to its Author. If I didn’t believe that, I’d be in the same boat as the hordes of self-destructive teenagers who simply want to have as much fun as possible while they can enjoy it, and beyond that, their goal is to end this life ASAP. Without any belief that God is sovereign and his Word is true, I wonder what you’d tell one of your own kids if he or she had that perspective? I can’t see how you could possibly come up with any rational argument against such a suicidal worldview.
chamblee54 “The subject ultimately matters to me only because I believe that the Bible is the Word of God, and I’m accountable to its Author. If I didn’t believe that, I’d be in the same boat as the hordes of self-destructive teenagers who simply want to have as much fun as possible while they can enjoy it, and beyond that, their goal is to end this life ASAP. Without any belief that God is sovereign and his Word is true, I wonder what you’d tell one of your own kids if he or she had that perspective? I can’t see how you could possibly come up with any rational argument against such a suicidal worldview.” How do we get from gambling to self-destructive teenagers? And are these the only two choices? To believe in “god in a book” (in violation of the first commandment) or a life of total depravity? I would hope there is another path, because neither of those work for me.

Two current local stories are the retirement of Neal Boortz, and the parental issues of Creflo Dollar. Many talkers and typers will discuss this, and they are welcome to it. Both subjects are toxic. Slightly more uplifting is Death In The Time Of Facebook.
That is a story at Thought Catalog. TC is another good use of spare time. The current offerings on the home page include 6 Things 20-Somethings Want, What Game Of Thrones Characters Would Tweet, If They Had Twitter, 4 Grooming Habits That Men Are Not Exempt From (by Chelsea Fagan), Pretending You’re Oppressed: The New Internet Fad, and An Open Letter Of Apology From The State Of Florida. (The Sunshine state is the leading content contributor to Hot and Busted.)
Getting back to the matter at hand, the sort of boss at Thought Catalog is Ryan O’Connell. He is a 25 yo gay man, who wrote Death In The Time Of Facebook. “I believe that, in many ways, Facebook has changed the way we grieve. I’ve never had anyone close to me pass away before but I’m not sure how I would feel about posting memories of the two of us on their Facebook wall.”
Chamblee54 ” I’ve never had anyone close to me pass away before” This is a 25yo gay man speaking. If this had been written twenty years ago, he would have known dozens. The bug drugs are a miracle.
alisonwisneski Woah. Out of line.
scsh I don’t know if this is a social justice issue. Twenty years ago, yeah, that was a thing, and it was huge. It totally really happened, and I don’t think this comment was offered as a slur but a history. An ugly one.
Anonymous why are u bringing up aids tho
scsh I’m mostly blown that a 25 year old anyone hasn’t. It’s a game changer. You are never the same.
Cita And if it had been forty years ago, I doubt any 25 year old would be able to say the same. Wars happen, technology advances, life expectancy increases. It’s not that complicated, and it certainly has nothing to do with being gay.









______ Telling _____ What Is Racist

Posted in Race by chamblee54 on June 11, 2012






Womanist Musings recently republished the internet classic 10 Conversations On Racism I’m Sick Of Having With White People. PG turned off his BS detector, and read. In addition to the ten convos of the title, there are five chats that the author would like to have. Apparently, the author likes to talk. Listening might be something else.

PG learned a long time ago that conversations about race are dangerous. If you say the wrong thing, you might wind up in the hospital. It is much easier to hold your piece, and live another day. The bottom line is, PG cannot remember ever discussing any of these matters, especially with a person of color (POC). He decided to leave a comment, and the fun started.

chamblee54 I am a person of non color. I have never had any of these fifteen conversations.
womanistmusings Do you want a cookie?
RVCBard Here’s a cookie you can make at home!
Siah WTF is a person of non-color? Transparent are ya?
miga Perhaps why ze’s never had that conversation before? No one notices hir?

PG felt it was important to make his ethnicity known. The image illustrating the comment has a brown paper bag over a head. You cannot tell if it is a white person (WP), or POC. When talking about race, this is an important distinction.

Person of non-color might be a silly label. But then, what about POC? It is a mystery why “colored people” is offensive, but POC is PC. The skin on PG’s neck might be red, but red is a color.

And so it goes. People love to talk about race in America. The problem is finding someone who will listen. Before ending the text, and moving on to the pictures (courtesy of The Library of Congress), we are going to share something from facebook. This message has been edited. WP and POC have been replaced by blank spaces.

This is what I have seen a lot of recently: _____ telling _____ what is racist and what is not. Trust me, _____ of the world, _____ have been thinking about this for a LONG time, and it would be a good idea to LISTEN to what they say — I think that, most of the time, they’re probably right and you’re probably wrong about racism.

Maybe even do some reading and research, so the _____ don’t bear the burden of actively taking the time to educate you about racism in only face-to-face interactions and only when they’re calling you out for saying or doing something racist.

Can we just start with the assumption that you, _______ , are racist? That your actions, most likely, perpetuate or benefit from racism? Maybe that’s not true — I’m sure you’re a good person, but maybe you’re also racist. I don’t want you to feel guilty about it, but just live with it for a little bit as if it were true. Accept, for a moment, that, unless you are actively engaged in something that is ANTI-racist, you’re being racist. Now there’s nowhere to go but up! Now you can feel EXCELLENT about every anti-racist thing you do!

And you’ve been doing a lot of those anti-racist things recently, right?





Kill Them All

Posted in Religion, The Death Penalty by chamblee54 on June 10, 2012








The BHO war machine combines modern murder technology with low tech sophistry.  Anyone within splatter range of a hellfire missile is assumed to be a terrorist. The problem of civilian casualties has been solved … they are all militants.

Unqualified Offerings has a feature on this subject. The source is Glenn Greenwald, tossing out ten thousand words as casually as Sarah Palin says lamestream media. There is a comment quoted. (It might be noted that the comment below was an “Update” to the original post. No one is his right mind has read all 481 comments to the post.)

“Isn’t the presumption that everyone in the so-called strike zone is a “militant” particularly egregious given past accusations that our enemies intentionally embed themselves in civilian populations? Haven’t we condemned our enemies in the past precisely because they’ve surrounded themselves with civilians? And now we’re justifying our crowd-killing strikes on the grounds that anyone close to a militant must himself be a militant?”

The old argument went that the other side used “human shields”. The armies were embedded in civilian populations, so that any attack would cause what was once called collateral damage. What was never mentioned was the fact that it was our forces that did the killing. If it were white Americans, much more care would be taken. This line of reasoning is now obsolete.

There was a fun comment at Unqualified Offerings. The text is courtesy of Gene Dannen. It is from a speech made by Harry Truman, on July 9, 1945. When this speech was given, Nagasaki had been destroyed.

“The world will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the killing of civilians. But that attack is only a warning of things to come. If Japan does not surrender, bombs will have to be dropped on her war industries and, unfortunately, thousands of civilian lives will be lost. I urge Japanese civilians to leave industrial cities immediately, and save themselves from destruction.”.

Group punishment is not restricted to war. In Mustang OK, a business owner led his employees in prayer, and then announced that 25 production people would be fired. The reason for the bloodbath: someone sent an email that the boss did not like. HT the fishwrapper. The speech is embedded above. Do not listen if you are in a good mood. This speech will ruin your day. Here is the email.

Ryan Tate , In 2009, Tate Publishing LLC was named one of the best places to work in the state of Oklahoma. In a post published on your blog in April 2, 2009, you say ”most publishers outsource and farm out their work because it is cheaper” and went on to say “we handle every element of production in house” and also “if you want to lead an industry and succeed you need to make the extra investment in the staff”. Three short years later, you have opened an office in the Philippines to do just that – outsource and farm out the work that has been done by loyal, hard-working Oklahoma employees. What has changed in that time that has caused you to come to the conclusion that “a staff that never quits” as you referred to them, are no longer worth the investment?”

Pictures, from the War Between the States, are from The Library of Congress.






Fubu Academy

Posted in Music by chamblee54 on June 9, 2012






PG decided, at next to the last minute, to hang out with friends, and see a trash movie. The flick was Voodoo Academy. It is decorated with shots of  pretty bois writhing in designer underwear.

A young man is led into upstairs. Some wine is poured on him, by a man wearing a clerical collar. The boi wiggles with emotion, lights start to flash on his chest, and his shrunken head is grafted onto a voodoo doll. The other students are told that he has been expelled.

The action takes place at Carmichael Bible College. There are six students, all impossibly gorgeous. The Carmicheal dude ain’t bad either. Headmadame Mrs. Bouvier wears Frederick”s of Hollywood drag. (Mrs. is her first name.) There are dozens of candles, which are always lit and never burn down.

Whoever is responsible for this nonsense is probably a veteran of the Roman Church. That institution has a ceremony of ritual cannibalism, where wine stands in for the blood of Jboi. At Carmichael Bible College, this wine is poured on the body of a wayward student. Bad things happen.

The next morning, PG was listening to a discussion with T. M. Luhrmann. She was flogging a new book, When God Talks Back: Understanding the American Evangelical Relationship with God. There was an incident, where a person had a mystical experience, realizing that Jesus loves them. This made PG remember the afternoon when he learned that Jesus hates him. Religious imagery is very powerful, even wearing designer underwear.





Steve Martin

Posted in Music by chamblee54 on June 9, 2012







There is a form letter floating through the intercourse now. It is a letter that Steve Martin used to send to his fans. (The letter was recently immortalized at Letters of Note ).

He …that is Stephen Glenn “Steve” Martin (born August 14, 1945) … has moved up in correspondence with his adoring fans. Mr. Martin now gives out business cards, with the message “This card certifies that the holder had met Steve Martin and found him genuinely friendly”. What a wild and crazy guy!

This is becoming one of those really really modern days here. Listening to a djmix with a Lady Gaga song, drinking coffee out of a Mcdonalds plastic cup, and writing a tribute to Steve Martin. What a day! Oh, before we forget, there is the story about the drive in theater on I85 that was showing “Father of the Bride”. One day, the h fell off the marquee, and the title of the movie became “Fater of the Bride”. Good times.

The story of Steve Martin and PG began one night at the Great Southeast Music Hall. PG got tired of hearing how great the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band was, and decided to see a show. The show started when some guy in a white suit came out with a banjo. John McEuen stood next to him, and kept falling into the microphone stand and saying ” this guy cracks me up”. Soon, MeEuen left the stage, and the guy in the white suit comediated.

Mr. Martin said that he paid somebody five thousand dollars for a joke. He then took this arrow, with a coat hanger wire attached to it, with a shape for his head to fit in, and put it on. That got a laugh, but not worth five thousand dollars. There was another gag…”do you mind if i smoke, no do you mind if i fart”. That got a slightly bigger laugh.

In those days, you could not sell alcohol in public on sunday night in Georgia. To compensate, the Music Hall sold children’s tickets for the sunday night shows. Mr. Martin was not used to having children in the audience. “Hey kid I gotta joke for you. There were these two lesbians…”

The show went over well with the Nitty Gritty crowd. However, it is doubtful that anyone thought, this is the beloved entertainer of our generation.

Mr. Martin was not through for the night. At one point, the NGDB moved to the back of the stage, and a smarmy lounge lizard, in a white suit, came on stage. While the band played “The girl from Ipanema”, Mr. Martin sang about the girl with diarrhea.

This was one of the last shows that Steve Martin did as an opening act. ( He did return to the Great Southeast Music Hall. Once, he did a week with Martin Mull, called the Steve Martin Mull Revue.) Within two years, he was a guest host on Saturday Night Live, and a certified wild and crazy guy. A couple of years later, he was famous again as “The Jerk”. Steve Martin had arrived.

The historic pictures today are from The Library of Congress. The animated dentures are from chattering teeth. The check is in the mail. This is a repost.






Why We Call Football Soccer

Posted in Uncategorized by chamblee54 on June 7, 2012


The world cup is the largest sporting event in the world. They play football (futbol), not soccer.

In the 19th century, the english wrote the rules for something called association football. This was different from rugby football. Somehow, soccer, a nickname for association, became the name of this new sport. When the pastime spread from the upper crust schools to the working class, it became known as football. It made sense, being a sport where you kick the ball with your feet.

In the USA, there was another sport called football. It involves beer and steroids. The ball only gets kicked when it is time for a commercial. For some reason, when association football became popular here, the name soccer stuck.

PG thinks soccer is a terrible word, for a pretty good sport. All those guttural noises sound bad in the mouth, like something  caught in your throat. Maybe, if the sport had another name north of the Rio Grande, it would be more popular. As it is, soccer is popular as a kids game, but strikes out as a spectator sport in the lower 48.

There was even a joke on laugh in once. It may be field hockey to you, but it’s soccer to me. If you get that, the social security office will be open at the usual time tomorrow. This is a repost.

Is T-SPLOST Toast?

Posted in Georgia History by chamblee54 on June 6, 2012









On July 31, voters will consider a proposal with the clumsy acronym T-SPLOST. . This stands for Transportation Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax. It was a name given by a committee, just like the project list was created by a committee. Some say a camel is a horse designed by a committee. Perhaps the “regional roundtable” wants to have camel trails. Atlanta did not build roads, they paved the cow paths.

The Georgia Sierra Club is opposed to T-SPLOST. Their presentation will form the basis for this post. Not enough goodies are going to South Dekalb county, so the Dekalb NAACP is opposed. Chamblee54 has mixed feelings.
The project list was assembled by a “regional roundtable”. The ten counties of the region are Clayton, Cherokee, Cobb, DeKalb, Douglas, Fayette, Fulton, Gwinnett, Henry, and Rockdale. Sierra describes the sausage factory:
“The Atlanta T-SPLOST project list was developed by a “regional roundtable,” a 21-member panel consisting of one mayor and one county commissioner from each of the region’s ten counties, plus the mayor of Atlanta. There was no attempt to apportion representation by population. As a result, the panel was dominated by smaller, more rural counties that do not prioritize transit. Twelve of the 21 panel members came from the six smallest counties, representing just 25% of the region’s population. Only nine of the panel members represented the region’s four biggest counties (Cobb, DeKalb, Fulton and Gwinnett) even though those counties account for 75% of the region’s population and 79% of the anticipated T-SPLOST tax revenue. The result of this disproportionate representation was an overemphasis on road projects that (unlike transit) have alternate sources of potential funding, and a series of political turf battles focusing on local demands rather than regional needs.”
It is like the old county unit system. Gwinnett county, with 805,321 people, had as much say so as Fayette county does with 106, 567. (Source of numbers.) Another problem is the way Local Assistance Road Program (LARP) money is distributed. 15% of T-SPLOST bucks will go to local governments. The problem is that several OTP counties will take in more money than they will generate. Fulton county is estimated to take in $88 mil less than it generates.
The Georgia Sierra Club has seven main objections to T-SPLOST. On their website, they go into luxurious detail. Here are the sloppy seven.

1 The Project List Does Not Present a Cohesive Transportation Vision, offering a hodgepodge of conflicting priorities when what is needed is a bold and consistent vision for a sustainable transportation future.
2 The Necessary Institutional Context is Not in Place, with the 2012 legislative session having failed to address serious questions about equitable regional transit governance and the ongoing second-class treatment of MARTA.
3 It Likely Kills Commuter Rail For Another Decade, taking off the table one of the most promising strategies for providing commute alternatives and promoting sustainable development.
4 It Does Too Little to Address the Current Road-Heavy Funding Imbalance, instead reinforcing a funding framework that already heavily favors highway expansion over commute alternatives.
5 The Road Funding Neglects Maintenance Needs to Focus on New Capacity, with five times as much funding going to expanded capacity than to maintenance and operations, further compounding an already serious backlog of asset management needs.
6 It Locks the Region into a Dysfunctional, Undemocratic Decision-Making Process, both through the highly politicized “roundtable” process and the blatantly anti-urban method for distributing local set-aside funds. (Fulton County alone would forfeit $88 million due to this inequity.)
7 The Transit Component Has Too Many Flaws, including vaguely defined project descriptions, underfunded capital expansions, and uncertainty about long-term operational support.

PG has a few things to add. The treatment of MARTA by the rest of the state is shameful. MARTA recieves no funding from the state. The same legislature passes laws telling MARTA how to spend it’s revenue. Fulton and Dekalb counties have had a one percent sales tax for forty years to support MARTA. While the system has it’s problems, it needs more support from the OTP crowd.
The Clifton Road Corridor is a big ticket item. This is a light rail system between the Lindbergh MARTA station and the Emory campus. GSC has concerns about whether this project can support itself after it is built. This is an ambitious project, and the demand for it is far from certain. It is currently planned to go in a railroad corridor, which will reduce disruption during construction.
There is a ton of information available about this referendum. Voters are encouraged to learn as much as possible before the vote. At this time, there is no Plan B.
Pictures today are from ” Special Collections and Archives,Georgia State University Library”








Hate Crime Laws And Double Jeopardy

Posted in Race, The Death Penalty by chamblee54 on June 5, 2012





The first mistake was reading more about George Zimmerman. PG went ahead, and read REPORT: FBI May Charge George Zimmerman With Hate Crime, Could Face Death Penalty. PG thought this was a bit weird, and did some research.
The FBI has a list of Federal Civil Rights Statutes. On several of these laws, the phrase “may be sentenced to death” appears. This expression does not appear in the description of “Title 18, U.S.C., Section 249 Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act.” This is the most recent expansion of the Federal Hate Crimes legislation. It expands the definition of hate crimes to include LGTB cases. (This possibility that Trayvon Martin was killed for being gay has not been mentioned.) The Matthew Shepard Act was added onto a defense spending bill, and signed into law October 28, 2009.
PG is not a lawyer. Reading legislation and court opinions makes his head hurt. He is not sure which of the hate crime laws would apply to George Zimmerman. The idea of Mr. Zimmerman being poisoned by the Federal government is unlikely.
There is another aspect of application of hate crime law to this case that is troubling. If you believe that Mr. Zimmerman is an icky person, who deserves whatever happens to him, this might not bother you. The trouble with crazy laws, meant for icky people, is that they might be applied to you some day. Mobs demanding vengeance are not known for careful thinking.
Does federal hate crime prosecution constitute double jeopardy? The idea is that if you are acquited of a crime, you should not be tried again for the same offense. What appears to be happening is the federal government supervising the state government, and if the verdict is not satisfactory, bringing more charges.
Other people are asking the same question. National Review Online posted Hate Crimes, Thought Crimes, Double Jeopardy. This article was written while the Matthew Shepard Act was in Congress. It was before the skittles shooting.
“Among other things, the bill permits the U.S. Attorney General to initiate federal hate-crime prosecution in cases where “the verdict or sentence obtained pursuant to State charges left demonstratively unvindicated the Federal interest in eradicating bias-motivated violence.” In other words, if the Feds don’t like the state verdict, they will bring their own charges.
Another commenter notes
“The bill would allow people who have been found innocent of a hate crime in state court to be reprosecuted in federal court. Many supporters of the federal hate crimes bill want to allow people who have been found innocent of a hate crime in state court to be reprosecuted in federal court. As one supporter put it, “the federal hate crimes bill serves as a vital safety valve in case a state hate-crimes prosecution fails.” The claim that the justice system has “failed” when a jury returns a not-guilty verdict is truly scary and contrary to the constitutional presumption of innocence and the right to trial by jury.
But it is a view widely shared among supporters of the hate-crimes bill. Syndicated columnist Jacob Sullum pointed out in 1998 that Janet Reno, Clinton’s Attorney General, backed the bill as a way of providing a federal “forum” for prosecution if prosecutors fail to obtain a conviction “in the state court.” Similarly, The Leadership Conference on Civil Rights wants to reprosecute teenagers who were found innocent of a hate crime against an illegal alien in a Pennsylvania state court.
As Sullum noted, the federal hate crimes bill exploits a loophole in constitutional protections against double jeopardy, known as the “dual sovereignty” doctrine. The Supreme Court created this loophole in its 5-to-4 Bartkus decision.
(The original post has several links that provide more information.)
Pictures are from the ” Special Collections and Archives,Georgia State University Library”




Heather Has A Mommy And A Daddy

Posted in Undogegorized by chamblee54 on June 5, 2012




Heather Has a Mommy and a Daddy
Deep in the heart of Dullsville, at the end of a cul-de-sac, behind a lawn of scratchy brown grass dotted with giant plastic butterflies, three flaking cement deer, and a philodendron the size of Bob Hoskins though with fewer decorative parts, lives Heather Thompson. Heather has a mommy and a daddy. Heather’s daddy is an accountant. Her mommy is a homemaker. Before Heather was born they met, fell in love, and got married. “I love you very much and I’m having your child,” Heather’s mom said.
Danitra is Heather’s best friend. One of Danitra’s dads is an empowerment facilitator. The other is an aura consultant. Danitra doesn’t know what they do at work, except they don’t need briefcases. Before Danitra was born her daddies met and fell in love, and after seventeen years spent discussing caring and support, handling acceptance, and negotiating intimacy, they had a commitment ceremony. “I love you very much and I’m designing the rings,” Danitra’s Daddy Mike said.

One day in school Heather’s teacher, Mrs. Weinberg-Lopez, tells the class to draw pictures of their families. Danitra draws two men, Julio draws two women, and Heather draws a man and a woman. Keanu points at the woman Heather drew, with squiggly yellow hair, a crude red dress and simple brown shoes. “This dad here’s got some ugly drag going on,” he says.

At lunchtime Danitra sits on the bench next to Heather and pulls a sandwich out of a brown paper bag.“Want to trade?” Danitra asks. “I’ve got grilled eggplant and goat cheese on marjoram foccacia.” “Um, I didn’t bring lunch,” Heather stammers, kicking her brown paper bag out of sight. “I’m … uh … on a diet.”

“Diet?” Danitra asks. “Haven’t your dads told you not to buy into that patriarchal looks-based chauvinism? And anyway, what’s this then?” she asks, holding up the bag with “HAVE A SUPER DAY!” written in sparkle marker on it.

Julio, who was listening nearby, runs up and grabs Heather’s lunch. “Yeah, what’s this? It’s somebody’s lunch!” Heather jumps at the bag but Julio holds it out of reach. “You give that back!” Heather yells. “Try and make me!” Julio chides. He pulls Heather’s sandwich apart and drops it like it was electrified. He wobbles away, holding his stomach.

“Oh my God!” he cries. “There’s like dead stuff in there!” Danitra looks at the sandwich lying on the cement. “Is that MEAT? Is that like SPAM?” Claudia, sitting quietly at the other end of the bench, bursts into tears. “Heather’s eating BAMBI!” “It’s friggin’ Wonder Bread!” Julio scoffs. Keanu walks toward the bread and peers at it. “And it’s got LUBE all over it!” “You idiot, that’s MAYONNAISE.” “What’s mayonnaise?” “It’s like goat cheese for heterosexuals.”

“Heterosexuals?” Keanu asks. “Heather’s mommy and daddy are heterosexuals?” Heather starts to yell. “No! I don’t have a mommy and a daddy. I’ve got two daddies!” “Hell-OOOO!” Danitra says, drawing the word out to twelve syllables. “We can see your clothes!” “Um . . . “ Heather stalls, “then I’ve got two mommies.” “And we’ve seen you play baseball,” Julio answers.

Heather, unable to think of a response, sits on the bench and starts to cry. Danitra pulls a robin’s egg blue bandana from her pocket and dabs at Heather’s face. “Maybe your mom’s not really a woman,” Danitra offers. “Well,” Heather says, sniffing, “she cleans the house, and cooks, and does the laundry.” Danitra fumes. “We’re trying to establish that she’s female, not that she’s an idiot.”

“Maybe your dad’s not really a man,” Julio suggests.“Well,” Heather answers, wiping her nose. “He’s big and strong and he’s got a mustache.” Several of the children wonder what this proves but nobody says anything.

“So let’s say you’ve got a mom and a dad,” Keanu says. “Then where did you come from?”Heather thinks for a minute. “They went to bed together, and then I was born.” Some of her friends express further interest, but Heather doesn’t have a brochure. “Daddy put his thing in mommy — “

“Oh, man,” Keanu interjects. “Is that legal?” “HelLLLLO!” sings Danitra, who gets the word up to eighteen syllables this time. “We’re in CaliFORnia!”

“And nine months later I came out of my mommy’s tummy,” Heather adds. Several of the children wonder why they didn’t hire a surrogate with a vagina but nobody says anything.








Heather Has a Mommy and a Daddy, Part Two
One night there’s a dance at Heather’s school and her parents offer to chaperone. While Heather’s dancing with Danitra she sees from the corner of her eye her mom and dad moving onto the dance floor. She watches in horror as her mom just sort of stands there swaying, her gingham granny dress limply hanging to the floor. She grimaces as her dad starts chopping at the air like Jackie Chan being attacked by locusts.

Occasionally their movements coincide with the beat. Heather runs to the bathroom crying.“Heather, don’t feel so bad,” Danitra says. “Lots of kids have embarrassing parents.” She starts to lead Heather out of the bathroom, then stops. “Um, maybe we should stay in here a while longer. They just started doing the Bump.”

One day the class projects are due. Heather brings in the model she’s made. It’s a lump of brown Play-Doh with ketchup poured over it and dotted with marshmellows stuck on with toothpicks. She sets it on the table as her teacher comes over to look.

“Why, Heather! That’s . . . nice! Very very nice!”“What the hell is it?” Tommy asks. “TOMMY! Heather’s parents had me over for dinner once. This is what they call ‘Salisbury steak.’” Heather bursts into tears. “NO IT’S NOT! It’s a VOLCANO! That’s lava, and that’s steam coming out.”

Danitra enters and places her project next to Heather’s on the table. “Why, Danitra, what’s this?” Danitra delicately removes the sheet protecting her project. “Versailles.”

Heather takes one look at the tiny replica of Louis XIV’s summer home, constructed by Danitra and her two dads out of two hundred cubic yards of teak plank, thirty square feet of gold leaf, sixty pounds of Italian travertine marble from the same quarry Michelangelo used, tiny topiary and functional miniature fountains, and cries even harder.

“Why did I have to have a mom and a dad?” Heather sobs. “Why can’t my family be like all the rest?”

Mrs. Weinberg-Lopez pulls Heather close. “Children,” she says,”every family is special, including those conforming to the rigid, stereotypical standard of male domination.” She starts to tell the class about her own family, including her hearing-impaired Hispanic mother, her height-challenged Israeli father, and her Gypsy recovering-substance-abusing brother-in-law and Armenian sex-addict half-sister, but stops, realizing the school year is only 4,074 hours long.

“Just because Heather’s parents are heterosexual doesn’t mean they’re slow-witted philistines, though there are strong correlations you don’t need a PhD in statistics to understand. But Heather is lucky to have a sweet mom and a wonderful dad and a dog named Molly and a hamster named Samson, and they all live together in a lovely house. They’ve got interesting avocado-colored appliances, carpet as long as your hair, and furniture that‘s by-and-large wood that must have taken them hours to assemble. There’s a big plastic sofa that turns into a bed, and a La-Z-Boy — ”

“A what?” Keanu asks. “A La-Z-Boy,” Mrs. Weinberg-Lopez repeats. “It’s a big vinyl chair that reclines.” “Oh, man!” exclaims Keanu, covering his face with his hands. “And I thought our Herman Miller reproductions were embarrassing!”

Mrs. Weinberg-Lopez continues. “But the important thing is, they’re a family. They’re a group united for a common purpose, where each individual is given a sense of empowerment and their shared bonds are formalized in a ritualistic manner.” “Oh,” the students respond in unison. Everybody hugs.
THE END

The story was borrowed from World Class Stupid.
Pictures are from The Library of Congress. This is a repost.