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The Six G-ds of Christianity

Posted in Uncategorized by chamblee54 on March 4, 2010


There is a discussion brewing in the Jesus Worship blogosphere on the question of ” Is Christianity really monotheistic”. This is in response to a ten part “meme”, on the subject of the unquestioning Christian.

There is a “motivational” poster, with the headline “Ten signs you are an unquestioning Christian”. One of these ( either number one or ten) deals with monotheism. To wit:
“You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your God.” Some writers are promising/threatening to write about all ten of these arguments, and the features on monotheism are the first.
PG is a recovering Baptist, who is severely alienated from Jesus, and Jesus Worship. He does suspect that there is a G-d, and is in no way an “atheist”. The tracts linked to above tend to break down the discussion to atheists vs. christians, which is highly misleading.

In any event, PG has been knocking around for some time the idea of a post about the six G-ds of Jesus Worshipers. The appearance of this series…at blogs that ban PG from commenting…has spurred him into action. Whether or not there will be more comments (from PG) on this series remains to be seen.

Christianity (In this feature the expression Jesus Worship Religion, or JWR, will be used) claims to be a monotheistic religion. This means, there is only one G-d. In contrast, the Romans and Greeks had G-ds and G-ddesses galore, and the Hindus have literally millions of deities. In what was claimed by some as an advancement, the Jews worshiped one G-d. ( Zoraroastrians are said to be monotheistic, and did it before the Jews. There may be others.)

One of the sacred tracts of Judaism and JWR is the ten commandments. The first three relate to the concept of monotheism, and the proper way to talk about G-d.

1-Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2-Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3-Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

As a side note, PG has heard something about the use of Lord as a name for G-d. The riff is that “Lord” was an English nobleman. When the Bible was translated by James I, his workers used the L word as a synonym for G-d. The words for G-d in the Greek and Hebrew texts that comprised the Bible do not translate as Lord…that word was inserted by the anglocentric workers of James I. This is something that PG read in a book by Tom Robbins, and has no other source for. It may or may not be true. If it is, then it just might be a violation of the third commandment.

Getting back to monotheism, does Jesus Worship Religion (JWR) live up to the first commandment? This may seem to be a silly question when you consider the concept of the trinity. At some point in the early days of Jesus Worship, a decision was made top split G-d into three parts. We now had the father, the son, and the holy ghost. ( Which makes for a neat blessing…the father the son the holy ghost, whoever eats fastest gets the most ) The first commandment is still in effect, but, well, you just have to understand. The Jews continued to worship one G-d, and when Mohammed started his franchise a few years later, he changed the name to Allah. In that version, there is no G-d but Allah, and Mohammed is his messenger.

Meanwhile, the Jesus Worshipers were good at converting and reproducing, and soon had a very popular religion. But was it one G-d only? The faith had a book of ancient texts that they call “the word of G-d”. The fact that it was written, copied, edited and translated by man did not stop folks. The first commandment would seem to prohibit this custom, but, you just have to believe.

PG is willing to concede the point that he doesn’t understand the concept of the Trinity. He thinks it is a concoction of the Council of Nicea, and is a violation of the first commandment. This is something that seems to happen a lot with JWR…to proclaim one thing as a rule, to apparently violate that rule, but have a clever explanation that few seem to understand.


This does not explain the other G-ds of JWR. For this discussion, we will focus on three…the Bible, Satan, and Salvation.

The Catholic Church had a conference to establish a consistent canon for their church. This conference became known as the Council of Nicea. (This conference is where the concept of the Triune G-d was formulated.) The texts in use by the church at the time were collected in one book. Some texts were not used, and there is a good possibility that the texts that were used were edited. This committee effort became known as the Bible.

During the protestant reformation, the new churches needed a source for their authority over the people. It was during this time that the concept of the Bible as the “Word of G-d” became known. This in effect made a G-d out of a book. This is in direct defiance of the First Commandment, which teaches to have no other G-d before you.

The book has been interpreted into many languages, and the interpretations have been interpreted. The star of the New Testament, Jesus, spoke Aramaic. His words were recorded, in Greek, many years after he *died*.Any quote from Jesus has been translated at least twice. This is from texts that were written many years after he lived. And yet, people talk about what Jesus taught, and have confidence, that they know what they are talking about.

At some point, the idea began to float around that the Bible was not only the word of G-d, but that it was inerrant…that is, without errors. This would presume that no scribe copying a text, no Catholic editor assembling a canon, and no one translating ancient languages made a mistake.

This one is too blatant to let slide. When you declare a text to be the “word of G-d”, you are making a G-d out of a book. There is a semantic argument to be made, you can say that this isn’t worship. Lets say it out loud…calling the Bible the “word of G-d” makes a G-d out of a book, in violation of the First Commandment. This is not monotheism.

A quick look at the way Satan is treated by the church shows a curious similarity to worship. Yes, it is backhanded worship, and lots of negative things are said about Beelzebub. He with the horns and tail is given credit for all kinds of powers, and needs to be fought ( with human collateral damage). Yes, Jesus Worshipers give the Devil his due, and then some.

The last “G-d” that we will look at today is Salvation, or the JWR scheme for life after death. Anyone living in the USA has heard this plan a thousand times, and many agree with it. Some do not agree with it. It is up to your imagination (and none of your business) how PG feels.

What is undeniable is the importance placed on salvation in JWR. It is discussed in every church meeting, often at top volume, and with dramatics that would shame a ham actor. Salvation is said to justify all the rudeness and verbal abuse that Jesus Worshiper inflict on their neighbors. If you do not agree with the concept of Salvation, you have no business belonging to a Jesus Worship Church.

Does this hysterical emphasis on Salvation make a G-d out of the concept? As with the Bible and Satan, it is a matter of perspective. A good argument could be made that Jesus Worshipers treat these three items with G-d like devotion, and make G-ds out of them.

The pictures illustrating this feature are from a hike on the Atlanta Beltline site on Veterans Day, 2009. The Beltline project is an act of faith…the idea that people can take a resource, and turn it into something of benefit to the community. It is an activity open to all people, regardless of their opinion about G-d(s). There will be a hike on the corridor in these pictures Saturday, March 6, at noon.

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  1. gary Simmons's avatar gary Simmons said, on March 4, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    PG

    You know me I love the pictures. What is with the man and woman naked in the eating area? They both seem to have all the important parts. Why was she only given one arm or was it, an accident involved.

    This is by no means on the level of your writing but I will take a chance at looking foolish any way.

    My kids call me Daddy. When they do, I act like a daddy.

    My wife calls me her husband. When she dose I attempt to act like one.

    My boss calls me, Ha you. I answer back.

    Still at the end of the day when I look in the mirror, all I see is Gary.

    Now about the many gods, I think there are thousands in the world myself. Still there is only one that I capitalize the G when I write it.

    Enjoyed the post as always,

    gary

  2. chamblee54's avatar chamblee54 said, on March 4, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Gary, thanks for stopping by.
    I don’t know what happened to the left arm of the statue lady. Maybe the restaurant is really expensive, and it cost her left arm to eat there.
    As for the rest of your comment…one thing religion is good for is giving people something to talk about. I just wish people could be a little bit kinder to each other when they compare notes about G-d.
    .

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  5. Cal Gough's avatar Cal Gough said, on May 3, 2012 at 6:48 am

    Thanks for supplying a link to this, it was really good (as are all of your posts, for that matter…no small accomplishment in ye blogosphere). I missed this one the first time around (not knowing about your blog until years later, so be sure to keep inserting those links to retrospective blogposts, so I can read them all gradually, instead of via your archives (which would feel way to overwhelming). And I hope you are, or are planning to, print out all of everything you’ve written? These screeds of yours must be Preserved in some form more permanent than electrons-floating-in-ye-ether!!! I’m serious (writes the librarian well-wisher).

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